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20 Aug 2007, 8:55 am

Is AS un-American? What I mean by this is that having AS or supporting people with AS goes against certain principles of American culture and identity.

The US and its institutions and culture is not something I am familiar with. British schools hardly teach anything about the New World, and I haven't got round to studying the US and its culture yet.



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20 Aug 2007, 9:05 am

As I can not separate my AS from my political beliefs, I don't know if regressives consider my progressive stance unAmerican, or my AS un American.

Personally, I think I am quintisessentually an American, though. Can't help it, I was born here, my parents were too, so were my grand and great grand and great great grand and my great great great to the back to the 1700's .

so, what else would I be but American?

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20 Aug 2007, 9:26 am

I'm both an aspie and an American. So what.....it shouldn't be a problem to anyone at all.



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20 Aug 2007, 9:35 am

AS Un-American don’t be so daft maN? Americans are the entrepreneur, the self confident bigheads. Americans have silicon valley. American have a proud geek community.

English just have a bunch of un intellectual Chavs hanging around the pub getting drunk.

Yes Americans are more religious, but at least they have community activities, Brits have wigging back some XXXX.



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20 Aug 2007, 10:10 am

sinsboldly wrote:
As I can not separate my AS from my political beliefs, I don't know if regressives consider my progressive stance unAmerican, or my AS un American.

Personally, I think I am quintisessentually an American, though. Can't help it, I was born here, my parents were too, so were my grand and great grand and great great grand and my great great great to the back to the 1700's .

so, what else would I be but American?

Merle


Ditto. On my dad's side, our family actually came over in the 1690s, and later fought in the revolutionary war. Actually, one of my ancestors (a 16 year old "powder monkey") was on the ship with Admiral Farragut during the Civil War when he uttered his famous words "Damn the torpedoes, and full speed ahead." We've been Americans for a long time.

I don't know why anyone would think having AS would be un-American.



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20 Aug 2007, 12:19 pm

I think we're more American than most Americans, because America loves to consider itself a nation born of individuality, frontierism, free-thinking, etc.



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20 Aug 2007, 12:22 pm

The founding principles of our country are based upon liberalism and egalitarianism. The philosophies of our founders were based upon the Radical Whigs from your own national history. Unfortunately, we have a lot of conservatives here who ardently deny this, and they reinforce a very backwards view of history by repeatedly invoking historical figures in their rhetoric. The true heritage of this country is a progressive spirit coupled with a taste for renewal and growth.

Aspergians have the potential for being unifying figures in this country. In fact, most of the conservative libertarians I've gotten along with have exhibited exactly such qualities, and I think that we are the most fertile ground for creating a sense of unity among our countrymen. That's about as American as you can get right there.



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20 Aug 2007, 12:33 pm

I am also a conservative libertarian. Or perhaps more accurately a libertarian-leaning conservative. (I take umbrage to the term "regressive." There is nothing "regressive" about wishing to maintain traditional values and standards and desiring change to be gradual rather than a pell-mell, headlong rush.)

I don't see how anyone could think of people with AS as being "un-American." As Aspie_Chav said, traditional American values include the rugged individualist, the the entrepreneur, the Revenge of the Nerds. Although we often marginalize the odd ducks among us... it is those self-same odd ducks that spearhead the country's growth and prosperity. What's more American than Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, the Pirates of Silicon Valley?


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20 Aug 2007, 12:34 pm

America is supposed to be a nation of tolerance and acceptance. Thus AS (or any other neurological variation for that matter) cannot be considered unamerican.



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20 Aug 2007, 12:40 pm

Exactly, Jonny. This is why I've generally had more respect for you than other conservatives over there on Political in spite of our differences. You're Aspie, and you're very sincere in nature. Although I don't agree with you on all things, I think that there are non-political/non-religious issues on which we could find something in common if we chose to. If you want to gain a better understanding of liberal-minded people, look for the ones who exhibit strongly Aspie qualities and have a slight libertarian streak. You'd find it enlightening.

So, what do you think about my idea of Aspergians helping to bring our country to a sense of unity and accord? Ya think we could show these guys how to get along Aspie-style? *grynz*



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20 Aug 2007, 12:55 pm

White 'Americans' have only existed for a few hundred years so technically unless your ancestors were native americans you are most likely european decended anyway.



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20 Aug 2007, 1:06 pm

Well, I am not American, so simply for this I am unamerican. But if being American means sharing the American rethoric of patriotic self-assurant cowboys, or entrepeneurs, or believers in material progress, or moon-colonizers, or extollers of the American Way of Life, I am no more unamarican, but, alas, antiamerican. But I love American culture: Jazz, F.S.Fitzgerald, Melville, Mark Twain, Ben Shahn, John Ford and many, many others.


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20 Aug 2007, 1:15 pm

Asking if a mental disorder is unamerican is like asking if being a minority is unamerican. It makes me sick to think that anyone could even ask that question.



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20 Aug 2007, 1:15 pm

Asking if a mental disorder is unamerican is like asking if being a minority is unamerican. It makes me sick to think that anyone could even ask that question.



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20 Aug 2007, 1:15 pm

Asking if a mental disorder is unamerican is like asking if being a minority is unamerican. It makes me sick to think that anyone could even ask that question.



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20 Aug 2007, 1:31 pm

Yameretzu wrote:
White 'Americans' have only existed for a few hundred years so technically unless your ancestors were native americans you are most likely european decended anyway.


It's been my experience that most people whose families have been here for at least a couple hundred years usually have some Native American blood, actually. Like my great-great-grandmother was Native American, and apparently my grandfather still had some very Native American facial features.