Recreational Drugs - Cousins of the Aspergers Drug Solution?

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Which recreational drugs relieve ASD symptoms best?
Ecstacy 55%  55%  [ 23 ]
Speed 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Weed 43%  43%  [ 18 ]
Total votes : 42

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11 Nov 2011, 11:35 am

After my late Aspie diagnosis (30 yrs old) i tried taking Antipsychotic and other drugs prescribed by a shrink which didnt really help my ASD or ADD, to be honest they made me really paranoid and gave me other long term side effects 3 yrs after i stopped taking them,.....(see my other recent post about Erectile Disfunction!! !

i think that the drug companies need to do better with the treatment of ASD....i took E, Speed and Weed over the years to treat my symptoms. The Ecstacy / MDMA could be adjusted so it doesnt get us so high and doesnt have any adverse effects (or minimised) to the point that we could live without fear and be happy!! !....

Ecstacy is being looked at as a cure for cancer as we speak.....

Speed helped me to speak to people in clubs and TOTALLY come out my shell....i loved this new found confidence.

Also the weed just made me really paranoid but i did get really high for 15 years lol and put loads of weight on so it didnt really help but i bet there are loads of you out there who have self medicated over the years.. please god when will proper treatment be available to us persecuted beautiful and senstive ASPIES

Coke brought out the devil in me. Dont do it!

ASPIES UNITE..............Peace and love....xxx



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11 Nov 2011, 1:19 pm

What the hell.......they gave you anti-psychotics for AS?....anti-psychotics are used to reduce positive symptoms of schizophrenia, lol I don't even have a degree and I know that's a stupid idea. I imagine such drugs would make you paranoid, if you don't already have the symptoms those drugs are for.

I have recreationally tried adderall a couple times, and I will admit I get stuff done on that........but I don't have it prescribed to me so when I feel the need for stimulants I just settle for caffine or energy drinks. I also smoke cannabis just about every day to help with my anxiety and depression. As for extasy.........not quite sure what benifits that would have for AS or comorbid disorders, guess I'll have to read up on that.


But yeah cannabis does not work for everyone......for some it does cause things like paranoia, also that is more common with sativia strains because those stimulate the mind a lot more than indicas which overall just slow you down and cause a body high.



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11 Nov 2011, 1:22 pm

i am telling u one day MDMA's 2nd cousin will be the treatment for ASD.....hurry up drug companies, there's a lot of us suffering out here with this crappy affliction that is ruining our (and people we come into contact with)'s lives.



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11 Nov 2011, 2:36 pm

I am a recovering addict , drugs made my life even more hellish , my addictive obsessive nature meant they took over completely ... if u can use sensibly you are one of the lucky ones but remember people with obsessive personalities are much more susceptible to addiction ... so be careful


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11 Nov 2011, 3:00 pm

Disclaimer: I don't encourage drug use for anyone. It has caused me extreme problems over the years.

What that said, of the choices you listed, I chose Ecstasy. One time I took some by myself and went to a busy area and ended up spontaneously talking to some other guys who were walking by, and proceeded to hang out with them. Totally unheard of for me; initiating conversation with random people, period, and then maintaining it without feeling/seeming awkward as hell? It was amazing.

Weed is great for certain things (sleep problems, migraines, etc), but personally it actually has a negative affect in terms of AS-related symptoms. I feel even more unsure of how to communicate with people, even more anxious about doing so, and all of the ways of controlling social inappropriateness that I've carefully taught myself over the years seem to go right out the window. Interestingly enough, actually, in some ways I compare the way I feel going through life with Aspergers to being stoned. The feeling of being in a fog (particularly socially), heightened sensory perception yet less aware of actual surroundings, and at least personally, heightened connection to/ability when it comes to forms of art like music... all mimic being on marijuana.

In terms of speed, I just end up talking too much and rambling on kind of maniacally.

Also, echoing others who say NEVER do coke. It brings out the absolute worst, most evil sides of people.



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11 Nov 2011, 3:10 pm

all stimulants and hallucinogenics made me more introverted and more socially anxious to the point i couldn't speak a lot of time even ecstasy , i smoked weed all day every day for 15 years and it had little benefit except initially for insomnia which was heightened greatly over time and at one point i needed a concoction of 3 drugs just to sleep ... and coke was a massive addiction for me ... the only drugs that made me feel better was Valium cos it stopped me caring and took away my social anxiety ... but that was when my problems really spiraled out of control ... The best thing for my aspie like symptoms has been getting clean and NA where i can share my problems honestly and work towards spiritual fulfillment and serenity ... this is a place where i am excepted no matter what ... drugs where a solution of sorts for my head but for me the wrong one that made my life 1000 times worse


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11 Nov 2011, 3:26 pm

MDMA is the only drug that has enabled me to socialise and to see people as warm and friendly rather than complicated and awkward. That drug is the wonder drug of the last century and our stupid governments have banned it because they don't want people to feel good, then want us all to be worried and scared of everything.

Also MDMA allows you to see the world clearly and makes you question the way society is arranged.

I wouldn't believe the drug companies if they began researching it, they make their money from the crap antidepresants like SSRI's that only do a fraction of what MDMA does.

I feel so lucky to have been around in the late 1980s to try this beautiful drug.



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11 Nov 2011, 3:29 pm

dogslife wrote:

Also, echoing others who say NEVER do coke. It brings out the absolute worst, most evil sides of people.



All the bankers are on coke.



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11 Nov 2011, 5:07 pm

I am so happy there are other people in this world that understand what I have been through. It takes a bit of the loneliness away. My best friend growing up said to me that I should stop playing the victim and makes little allowance for my odd behaviour. This was my best friend. Oh man life can really suck for us. All I want is to take a pill each day and to feel like everyone else. Surely this can be done its 2011. I am irritated massively that nothing is being done I spent today calling round all the drug companies telling them that I thought they should listen to my idea about ecstasy being modified so that it can be used to treat asd symptoms. They said things are so bad across the whole of Europe ! !! Not a penny is being spent on drug research. Told me to try America. I give up. It's just too depressing. Sorry to moan but for gods sake someone do something!! !! !! !



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12 Nov 2011, 5:51 am

rickc77 wrote:
I am so happy there are other people in this world that understand what I have been through. It takes a bit of the loneliness away. My best friend growing up said to me that I should stop playing the victim and makes little allowance for my odd behaviour. This was my best friend. Oh man life can really suck for us. All I want is to take a pill each day and to feel like everyone else. Surely this can be done its 2011. I am irritated massively that nothing is being done I spent today calling round all the drug companies telling them that I thought they should listen to my idea about ecstasy being modified so that it can be used to treat asd symptoms. They said things are so bad across the whole of Europe ! !! Not a penny is being spent on drug research. Told me to try America. I give up. It's just too depressing. Sorry to moan but for gods sake someone do something!! !! !! !


Apparently the tyranical dictatorship called the EU banned a particular plant oil that is a key ingredient in manufacturing MDMA.



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12 Nov 2011, 7:31 am

I think MDMA is the most useful drug for treating people with AS. Its also useful for depression, anxiety, personality disorders, and mental illness in general. I don't understand why they made it illegal, as during the 60's and 70s it was proven to be a wonder drug that helped thousands of people. It made people connect at an extremely deep level. Maybe thats what the government are worried about, people connecting together. We're less difficult to control when we're isolated.



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12 Nov 2011, 8:11 am

If that what you say is correct that our happiness is being stubbed out by the folk in charge then we should start a revolution. I will lead. Aspies get behind me. Let's pull the wool from everyone's eyes. This ASD suffering has to stop. Our happiness and our children's, family and friends happiness is at stake. ASPIES UNITE!! !! Xxxxxxxx love will conquer greed and fear



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12 Nov 2011, 12:02 pm

ScientistOfSound wrote:
I think MDMA is the most useful drug for treating people with AS. Its also useful for depression, anxiety, personality disorders, and mental illness in general. I don't understand why they made it illegal, as during the 60's and 70s it was proven to be a wonder drug that helped thousands of people. It made people connect at an extremely deep level. Maybe thats what the government are worried about, people connecting together. We're less difficult to control when we're isolated.


Of course. We have been divided to be more manageable. Also the durg companies make more profits from their useless anti depressant drugs than MDMA. MDMA would not be needed for long term use, but people have to take prozac etc for a lifetime so it is steady profits for business.



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12 Nov 2011, 12:20 pm

SD leaf makes me less compulsive / good for depressive episodes
Blue lotus mixes well and makes a nice tea

And for reference I have AS and "probably" bipolar



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12 Nov 2011, 6:26 pm

Stimulants (particularly adderral) have helped me more than anything! Essentially got rid of my depression and most of my social anxiety.

But what I'm really interested in is DMT and Ayahuasca. I've tried DMT four times now and its never had any effect (other psychedelics work just fine on me). I've done a lot of research on Ayahuasca and many people say that it 'cures' depression, anxiety, and a lot of other things (there was even a National Geographic article about it). Has anyone here tried Ayahuasca?


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12 Nov 2011, 8:17 pm

Speed is a bad, bad, bad idea. You have ADHD or executive dysfunction, you go to a doctor and get yourself some Ritalin. It doesn't damage your brain and it doesn't get you hooked. There is a safe, legal way to get this effect, and it's just plain stupid to go for the illegal version when you could just go to a doctor and explain your problem and get the medication.

I'm not sure about ecstasy and marijuana. Honestly, I think there hasn't been enough research on either. I'm pretty sure E would be a bad idea to take regularly--it impairs your cognitive functioning too much--and marijuana is probably similar. You could likely find a legal drug that would help.

Benefits of legal drugs: Dependable supply, well-calibrated dosage, pure substance, doctor's supervision, known effects, backing of scientific research. You simply cannot get that by ingesting some random stuff you get from some guy you know, who probably doesn't even have a college degree, let alone an MD.

Self-medicating is just not a good thing, in general. Let alone that being in prison would be a bad thing for anybody, and even worse for an Aspie.


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