Aspie vs NT psychopath!

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Do you think NT's that are psychopaths target aspies and make thier lives a living hell? Can imagine anNeurotpyical that not only hates an autistic person but is also a psychopath? It would be horrible for the aspie because he feels like the bird of prey and pyschopaths more often than not are the predators.

Actually an Aspie psychopath is probaby a more deadly combination than an NT psychopath.

Your thoughts on this?

Predatory personalities often target vulnerable people. Since autistics have intrinsic traits that can leave them vulnerable, it makes sense that they might be more frequently targeted. But this is not exclusive to autistics. I would expect this to hold true across all segments of disabled or otherwise vulnerable people.

Do you get predotary aspies?

Sociopaths tend to prey upon the vulnerable. Because AS folks tend to have less social skills and don't possess the natural social intuition that allows them to see many "red flags" of unhealthy social interaction, they tend to be easy pickings for sociopaths. Also sociopaths tend to pick prey based off of posture and stance, just like predators in the wild picking off the sick or weak. AS folks tend to have awkward gaits, tend to not make eye contact, and rarely, if ever swagger.

The lack of ego/machismo leads to a noted difference in the physical stance of a person. A sociopath notes a person who is vulnerable through those differences. I have studied this quite extensively and it has been shown that sociopaths can read through posture and body language if a person is an easy target and even if the person has been abused before. I know this to be true as I can identify sociopaths very quickly as well after having encountered more than a few in my life and each of them have been able to tell that I was previously abused.

I do not think that it is specifically AS folks that sociopaths look for (although I'm sure someone has had a hard-on for seeking out AS folks in that capacity) but the general behavior and postures presented by AS folks is similar to submissive personalities, abuse victims, people with depression or personality disorders, and other vulnerable people that make easy prey. Usually the most effective sociopath will get an in-road to the person with compassion first, sharing their own stories of abuse, hardship, of being misunderstood, and will then begin to twist the individual to their desires. Since many AS folks are desperate for companionship, this is a very easy way to take advantage of us.

I don't think being an ass hole is limited to NTs. And co-morbid disorders are possible if you want to talk real psychopathy.

It's hard to say! I am not sure, for instance if Hitler was under the spectrum but I have a strong feeling Himmler was. Hitler was psycho but Himmler to me was scarier. That IMO.

Mir

Yep I know what you mean am on the spectrum and at school I was targeted by psycopaths, sociopaths and even bipolar people because of my gait and stance and also other things as well. we need to get these evil people out of our society.

funnly enough i tend to get along best with dyselxic people.

Well there are many sociopaths that are ethical in their own way, meaning that they do not unnecessarily take advantage of folks, and hold back their own impulses to manipulate. However, it happens in NTs and Aspies alike. Actually, there are many similarities between sociopaths and AS folks. We both like to have things a "certain way." We fixate on a specific subject. We both often have sensory integration issues. We often tend to be loners. Both have a higher incidence of childhood abuse. This, of course, does not imply that to be one is to be the other, but it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to see a sociopath have an AS Dx.

I highly recommend reading "The Sociopath Next Door" if this is a topic that interests you.

Even my own younger brother targets me.

Oh and just a note: Just because people are egotistical asses who play up the machismo doesn't make them anything close to a sociopath. Most folks who are aggressive jerks are not sociopaths and are only succumbing to social pressures towards hierarchical dominance structures. The sociopaths tend to not be the ones that are overtly picking on and bullying folks, just an FYI.

Sociopaths and Pyschopaths make great carrier criminals.

I've certainly been targeted by a psycopath... I left my last job because of this.

And the sociopath is often well liked by others. They can act innocent and "set up" the Aspie and nobody will believe the aspie.

@skogkatta

You are all too correct on that point...been there, done that, would not like to ever experience that again.

I think the condition of being a successfull NT requires you to be a sociopath.
This is part of why Aspies have trouble getting and keeping jobs - we don't have that "cut throat instinct" that NT's have which allows them to prey on and abuse those more vulnerable than them in order to achieve their own personal gains - weather it be climbing the social hiarchy at school or climbing the corperate ladder (while tredding on everyone beneath them).

I don't think Aspies posess the theory of mind to be an effective sociopath that takes an NT type preditor IMO

I'm going to really have to disagree. Being aggressive is not a symptom of sociopathy, but it is part of the normal NT focus on hierarchy and domination. For NTs the culture is born out of their own desires for determining who is powerful and who is weak, and the morals, ethics, and laws are all based off that desire. Churches have always been hierarchical, religion is hierarchical, even looking at chimps there are definite hierarchies. All animals tend to do this and those that do not play the power games become the betas as opposed to the Alphas.

You categorizing normals as sociopaths simply because you do not ascribe to their power plays would be the same thing as them calling you mentally deficient because you don't want to be Alpha dog, so to speak.