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19 Dec 2020, 6:47 pm

I don't know if this is ASD or ABI but there are times when I suddenly can't remember how to do a simple task that I've known how to do umpteen times previously.
For example, I had to change a tyre on my bicycle and I couldn't remember how to release the brake callipers to get the rear wheel off.
Yet I've done this countless times.
I had to google it.
I also tend to do things out of sequence, a lot. (I suspect this is more due to ABI)

Has anyone else had this experience?
It is beyond frustrating.


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19 Dec 2020, 8:12 pm

Yes. After the last burnout I was hardly able to do things. Sometimes I could if I was not in what I call "The fragile stage".
Today I hit the fragile stage as a result of the stress caused by earing of anoter lockdown because I use the car to de-stress. (Though I don't de-stress so much if I have to drive to many places like taking my Mum to deliver presents etc as somehow I get stressed doing that or going shopping etc... ).
But anyway... The fragile stage I feel fragile and can find gripping things like cups or holding things with my hands a problem. I have to hold cups by placing my lower finger underneath. I often drop this tablet as I think I have it but then it slips out my hand. I also get this when stressed... (Anxiety? Sometimes these overlap so I can't tell which is which as feelings can be hard to tell).

Also to add to this, during the fragile stage while having burnout (And I have had many times since such as today), I would get complete moments where I would stand there not knowing "How" to walk. I had for a moment completely lost my memory of to walk. I would then have to think to put one foot out forward and decide which one, and then take a brave act of faith and do it and then I would be staggering like Bami until my body caught up and learned how to walk again.

Also was find steering and braking and clutch control etc, but I and moments when I forgot how to select the right gear (A manual stick shift) and was hearing grating while I was accidently selecting reverse etc. This only happened with the walking and the gear selecting during and for the first few months after I had hit the last two burnouts.



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19 Dec 2020, 9:41 pm

Yes this happens to me. I forget how to do simple things, or I forget words. I generally chalk this up to symptoms of my neurological crap, but maybe it could be attributed to ASD? I'm not sure what ABI is.



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19 Dec 2020, 10:11 pm

When I moved here, I was quite traumatized and stressed. It was years before I noticed some obvious things about the house, such as which screens fit which windows, which was the hot tap in the laundry, and why there were some built in shelves - their frame had held a window before another room was added. These days, my attention span is shot from on-line life, so I can't even restore my first computer.



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19 Dec 2020, 11:44 pm

I have ASD and ADHD this will happen to me time to time. Usually if I am distracted by other thoughts or anxious about something.



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20 Dec 2020, 12:59 am

Yes.
It's what I've been dealing since around puberty.
It became more frequent and very apparent when I had a job -- complete with witnesses and accounts of said inconsistency.



I don't know what exactly caused it, only speculations.

Mine could be hormonal with sensitivities and sets of triggers for all I know. :|
It might be just the old news yet still unresolved issues of stress and sleep, exacerbated by other factors.



Based on the OP's history as far as I know, ABI may mean 'Acquired Brain Injury'.


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20 Dec 2020, 1:23 am

Edna3362 wrote:
Based on the OP's history as far as I know, ABI may mean 'Acquired Brain Injury'.


Oh yes that makes sense. I think it may be called traumatic brain injury here (or maybe those are different)...I shall do reading up on it.



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20 Dec 2020, 1:59 am

AuroraBorealisGazer wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Based on the OP's history as far as I know, ABI may mean 'Acquired Brain Injury'.


Oh yes that makes sense. I think it may be called traumatic brain injury here (or maybe those are different)...I shall do reading up on it.

Acquired brain injury can include traumatic brain injury but they are different.
ABI causes include near drowning, alcohol/drug use, stroke, disease etc.
TBI is usually due to some kind of impact to the head.


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20 Dec 2020, 2:01 am

^ Thank you, that makes sense :)



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20 Dec 2020, 11:29 am

Hi, Raleigh! It's nice to see you posting again.

Living with a spouse with dementia has taught me to view losses of practical knowledge compassionately - in both him and myself. He has better and worse days, and so do I.

Often it's not so much not knowing how to do something; it's more a sense of "I have to do A and B and C and D before I even get started on this task" and then just giving up. I do notice I am allowing my sense of being overwhelmed, to make me more and more disabled. I use a lot of help from others, and sometimes the main thing to do is to ask them to help me in a specific way. Other times, talking out loud or silently about the steps helps me. Or self pep talks: "C'mon, you can do this." And still other times, if I am slipping into my habit of multi-tasking and it subverts my mental function, it's "Just do one thing at a time!"


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20 Dec 2020, 11:50 am

I usually remember things once I learn them. I occasionally do this with passwords/passcodes, especially if they're just numbers. I might remember the order to hit the keys but be unable to type the numbers on a keyboard with a different layout. This mainly happened with my lunch code at school.



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20 Dec 2020, 6:06 pm

Udinaas wrote:
I usually remember things once I learn them. I occasionally do this with passwords/passcodes, especially if they're just numbers. I might remember the order to hit the keys but be unable to type the numbers on a keyboard with a different layout. This mainly happened with my lunch code at school.


I know what you mean about the physical/visual hint or habit helping to remember, but don't beat yourself up too much about forgetting numbers! Phone numbers and ID numbers usually make sense even if they're totally scrambled and arbitrary. Outside of mathematics, there's no such thing as a "nonsense number." Words, on the other hand, can be dubbed valid in a given language or not--for example, the names of Futurama's Lrrr, Ndnd, and their son Jrrr are amusing to English-speaking Earthlings for a reason!

If anyone ever tries a cognitive assessment on me using a "remember these numbers" task, I will hopefully remember to tell them straight-up that I was never very good at that at all! :lol:



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21 Dec 2020, 8:23 pm

This all sounds so familiar to me. I’ve been trying to remember how I cook Yorkshire pudding. If I don’t access the state computer systems I have to use - there are now three totally different ones - I can’t remember the steps to get on. Some things I do just by muscle memory. If my muscles forget I don’t have any idea how to proceed.

Ever since I broke my ankle, I no longer know how to use that foot/leg. I can’t remember how to get in and out of a canoe, for example.

I have had some success in talking to myself, or out loud, the steps of the process I’m trying to complete.


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30 Dec 2020, 4:13 am

Yes, I forget how to do tasks that have a lot of steps and tasks involving actions that I basically imitated without fully understanding what I was doing.

I think that sometimes I can't properly learn tasks because they are presented as a whole rather than broken down into steps I can digest one at a time. So it seems that inappropriate teaching methods are the problem.