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09 Mar 2021, 8:49 am

Seriously.

I'm not claiming every aspect of my life is interesting either.

But at least I try.

At least I do art and learn about stuff.

Most people come across like they stopped learning when they were at school/uni, stopped making stuff in primary school and have no life outside of work/pub/family.

I mean surely those kinds of people know they're boring?


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09 Mar 2021, 9:16 am

NTs do have interests. Some Aspies just don't seem to notice or accept the fact, or only see the stereotypes that all NTs talk about is sport and celebrities.


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09 Mar 2021, 9:32 am

All I'm doing is going based on what the ones I find myself amongst bore me with.

I doubt those kinds of people have proper interests.

If they do then they're keeping them from me.

Which is worse cos it makes me feel weird for having interests.


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09 Mar 2021, 9:41 am

What counts as "proper interests" anyway? Many NTs I know are really in to sports, as in watching, not playing, which to me is about as boring as it gets (aside from math), yet I don't go around saying that it's not a real interest. Many aspies I know IRL are, on the other hand, very interested in math and video games, which is also very boring to me, yet I don't say they aren't real interests.



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09 Mar 2021, 9:42 am

If all NTs are boring, then one must assume that all entertainers and other celebrities are not NTs.


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09 Mar 2021, 10:14 am

The phenomenon you’re observing is what I refer to as “living to die.” It sounds harsh, but the truth is that it’s the closest example that humans, read NT’s, are still just drooling animals. They like to dress it up when it suits them that they’re entitled to heaven or riches. But the facts show us that trillions of lives have come and gone without notice while those who are historically famous have lived.

There are lies that people tell to protect this sentimentality- that all life is precious. All people have a bit of good in them, you just have to find it. Heaven. God. Without these, regular people’s psychologies crumble. They realize they’re worthless and they give up being nice to other people, because there's no reward at the end. The curtain falls, the veneer drops on their true cruelty. It’s why we have so many anti-maskers right now. Facebook has shown that people are not connected to religions in the way they pretend to be out in public. I’ve heard dozens of people tell me they won’t wear masks because they believe God (always white God, btw) will protect them from the pandemic. Why them? What makes them special? Nothing. Just lies they tell themselves so they don’t fully grasp the horrors of their insignificance.

Me? I’m not special. But I spent my life learning about how to find hope without lying. I learned to live without the need to make others suffer through my negligence. And that includes what you’re talking about. Hobbies/ interests. I bring joy to others around me. I help them have as much fun as possible. I tell religious people that they will never get me to believe, but that I will never make them stop.

I did a research project at the start of Trump’s “kids in cages” campaign (still going btw). I learned about two studies that showed people with no fun in their lives become conservative over time. The first study demonstrated that conservatives given a choice between invisibility (read protection) and flight (read fun) answered a series of political questions more conservative or more liberal respectively afterwards. The idea they needed protection drove them deeper in their conservative responses (all subjects already identified as conservative). The idea they were free drove them more answer more liberally.

The second research paper was about playgrounds in Europe adding danger to reduce accidents. They found that fun being had with a little danger helped decrease schoolyard accidents when compared to over-engineered “safety” playgrounds. It is in the nature of people to explore, particularly at a young age. Curbing that, draining fun for safety, has an adverse effect on how children navigate those playgrounds. Their curiosity is not quenched, and they outwit the safety protocols. This leads to worse, more deadly and dangerous accidents. And that’s not my opinion. It’s what the researchers were observing.

So, I studied republicans versus democrats lifestyles within the US and found that on the whole, both parties were a bunch of safety blanket cuddling as*holes. The reason the two parties are so alike is because they’re both riddled with secretly ultra-conservative acting, unfun jerks vying for power, not change. You can see this in how Mitch McConnell completely copied and replaced Harry Reid. Reid taught McConnell as an understudy, did everything McConnell is doing. For example, delivered a party line vote not to impeach Clinton. Frankly, after #metoo, we all now know that Bill was a total piece of s**t. And that’s fine, apparently the dems of this day don’t remember how they helped build a Republican hatred of them by letting their morals slide on that one. Anyway.

Have fun. Be responsible. Enjoy a little bit of danger. And travel. You’re guaranteed not to be an old, crotchety, boring as*hole if you follow those guidelines.

Oh, and ps, anyone reading this who disagrees and is incensed by the accusation they are conservative because they don’t have enough fun, suck it. You have no idea how much fun you’re missing. Don’t @ me.


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09 Mar 2021, 10:20 am

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If all NTs are boring, then one must assume that all entertainers and other celebrities are not NTs.


Non artists and scholars are boring.


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09 Mar 2021, 10:23 am

Everyone is boring to someone else.

Besides, NTs were not created to keep the rest of us entertained.


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09 Mar 2021, 10:59 am

Fireblossom wrote:
What counts as "proper interests" anyway? Many NTs I know are really in to sports, as in watching, not playing, which to me is about as boring as it gets (aside from math), yet I don't go around saying that it's not a real interest. Many aspies I know IRL are, on the other hand, very interested in math and video games, which is also very boring to me, yet I don't say they aren't real interests.


I like football.

It's 1 something other than gossiping about people you know all the time esp in a bitchy way and 2 not getting smashed out of your skull every weekend.

When it comes to what makes an interest proper... part of it is also to do with producing something new. Whether that's because it's a productive activity (eg playing 5 a side football) or it's coming up with an actually original thought about that football team you support/video game you played.


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09 Mar 2021, 11:00 am

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Everyone is boring to someone else.

Besides, NTs were not created to keep the rest of us entertained.


What's the point of extending social media to non-artists then...


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09 Mar 2021, 11:16 am

KT67 wrote:
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Everyone is boring to someone else.  Besides, NTs were not created to keep the rest of us entertained.
What's the point of extending social media to non-artists then...
Because scientists, technicians, engineers, mathematicians, social workers, and people with Humanities degrees need social media just as much as (if not more than) artists.  If social media platforms were restricted to artists only, then social media platforms would be very chaotic places indeed.


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09 Mar 2021, 11:16 am

KT67 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Everyone is boring to someone else.

Besides, NTs were not created to keep the rest of us entertained.


What's the point of extending social media to non-artists then...


You can't have artists without a bedrock of non-artists to push away from. There has to be something "normal" in order to express something different. If you really want to know why social media is available to all.... advertising. I know you know that, I'm not writing a new truth here. But, the artists never were the ones dictating society until they express something the whole agrees needs to be adopted and integrated.

I'm actually super excited to be alive right now. The access social media and digital technologies have given to artists have made it more accessible than ever. That type of flood of art and media only occurs every few hundred years, with new technologies making mass accessibility, well, accessible. We live now in a digital renaissance.


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09 Mar 2021, 11:50 am

Funnily enough, I work with all guys and they hardly ever talk about sports. What they talk about the most is cars and driving. Or they talk about their families. Or anything really. But hardly ever sports.

I think it is just a stereotype, a bit like Aspies liking math is a stereotype.

Every NT I know has their personal interests; gaming, music, art, cooking, gardening, hiking, knitting, animals, travelling, stamp-collecting, to name a few. Yes I know you'd say that these sound more like hobbies but it still takes a certain amount of interest to take up a hobby.
My 100% NT cousin loves animals so much that she studied and trained to be a vet as soon as she left school. Some NTs have more interests than others.


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09 Mar 2021, 11:50 am

Are they boring enough to spend every day of their life on a support site complaining about everyone who isn't like them?



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09 Mar 2021, 11:58 am

Fnord wrote:
KT67 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Everyone is boring to someone else.  Besides, NTs were not created to keep the rest of us entertained.
What's the point of extending social media to non-artists then...
Because scientists, technicians, engineers, mathematicians, social workers, and people with Humanities degrees need social media just as much as (if not more than) artists.  If social media platforms were restricted to artists only, then social media platforms would be very chaotic places indeed.


Scholars and artists then.

All those kinds of people either deal with extreme parts of life or are scholars or engage in the arts (humanities degrees).


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09 Mar 2021, 11:58 am

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Are they boring enough to spend every day of their life on a support site complaining about everyone who isn't like them?


I don't actually do that though.

Also I treat this place as a forum not as a support site.

They are boring enough to waste their days laughing at people who are different to them and who are able to be unique. Not myself - talking about people braver than me here.


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