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05 Apr 2021, 7:46 pm

I've grown up with them and unlike a lot of other people with ASD, I just don't really have an opinion on them. It's more of a fascination & confusion kind of thing. They speak the same language as me, they go to the same school as me, they have fun just like me, and a whole bunch of other stuff. The thing is, it feels like I'm on a different frequency than them. They kinda just live their lives on autopilot, it seems.

Because of that, I haven't formed a concrete opinion on them despite of this time. I've never hated them, and I've never liked them.

Is a viewpoint like this as rare as I think it is? A lot of other autistics that I've met seem to have way stronger feelings.



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05 Apr 2021, 8:15 pm

I don’t really have any judgment or opinion of anyone based solely on their neurology. NTs are, on their own, individual, different people just like NDs. Now, I do have strong feelings about NT-centered society.

Part of this feeling, granted, may be due to the fact that I feel just as “other” with most other NDs as I do with most NTs (because so many of the ones I know IRL (and much of what I read here, too) are mild/high-functioning, while I’m moderate. I know people take issue with functioning levels and stuff, but I really can’t think of any other way to try to articulate the huge difference between me and people who are on the “mild” end of the spectrum). I don’t fit in any group, and everyone is equally alien to me, so I don’t naturally put people in groups (such as NT and ND).


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06 Apr 2021, 5:05 am

Rawto wrote:
I've grown up with them and unlike a lot of other people with ASD, I just don't really have an opinion on them. It's more of a fascination & confusion kind of thing. They speak the same language as me, they go to the same school as me, they have fun just like me, and a whole bunch of other stuff. The thing is, it feels like I'm on a different frequency than them. They kinda just live their lives on autopilot, it seems.

Because of that, I haven't formed a concrete opinion on them despite of this time. I've never hated them, and I've never liked them.

Is a viewpoint like this as rare as I think it is? A lot of other autistics that I've met seem to have way stronger feelings.


I'm the same as you. I've been mistreated by NTs in the past but I don't hold it against the whole general population, I just hold it against those individuals.


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06 Apr 2021, 5:58 am

There’s a considerable aspect of you that’s quite intelligent....all three of you.



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06 Apr 2021, 7:44 am

I don't have an opinion on NTs as a whole either. People are people, regardless. Some I might find interesting, others not so much. Some I might find pleasant and others not so much. And so on and so forth. NT or not is irrelevant to me.



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06 Apr 2021, 8:49 am

They just confuse me anjd do my head in

But no bad feelings either way.

they are creul though...calous buggers



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06 Apr 2021, 8:49 am

Wait Rawto are you telling me you don't view billions of Neurotypicals that exist worldwide, as a monolith to hold a black and white view of? Wow

Jokes aside though good on you, it is good not to get wrapped up in either an overly positive or negative mindset towards them. Instead, just see them as individuals. I find if you spend too much time trying to emulate your Neurotypical peers you set impossible standards for yourself, but if you hate them you isolate yourself from the world around you.



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07 Apr 2021, 10:28 pm

I also don't have an opinion about NTs. I've been around them my whole life.


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08 Apr 2021, 12:21 am

I had. And it's just as unpleasant as any frustrated aspie who wanted to be left alone.


I somewhat lost mine upon a realization, sometime before or after 18; about humans.
About humanity as a whole. Theirs. Mine. Ours.


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08 Apr 2021, 12:30 am

I don't have a positive or negative opinion of NTs as a whole. I do prefer to interact with other autistic people, because I can usually just be myself around them, but I still have to deal with NTs a lot and it's not their fault I find it exhausting.



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08 Apr 2021, 5:28 pm

you're the common one. Autistics who have an "opinion" about "NTS" are the exception.

You dont have to have an "opinion" about 98 percent of the human species(the same 98 percent who presumably include your parents and siblings).

They are most of the human race. Also they differ from each other (like autistics differ from each other).

But you do have to learn to deal with NTs in order to survive in the world. AND...they dont hafta learn s**t about you, nor about autism, to survive. So there is a power imbalance.

The way I see it is that we autistics have to be like Blacks in the segregation days south, and have to learn to be "house n****rs" to please NTs to survive, and to not expect much in reciprocation. Not because they are bad people, but just because they are people- who have all of the power.



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08 Apr 2021, 5:45 pm

Rawto wrote:
I've grown up with them and unlike a lot of other people with ASD, I just don't really have an opinion on them. It's more of a fascination & confusion kind of thing. They speak the same language as me, they go to the same school as me, they have fun just like me, and a whole bunch of other stuff. The thing is, it feels like I'm on a different frequency than them. They kinda just live their lives on autopilot, it seems.

Because of that, I haven't formed a concrete opinion on them despite of this time. I've never hated them, and I've never liked them.

Is a viewpoint like this as rare as I think it is? A lot of other autistics that I've met seem to have way stronger feelings.


I am somewhat two minds.
I have kind of a envious attitude to nt people for that autopilot component.
And They seem to just get over things, not even seem to dwell on problems like to the point where they are consumed by them I am however. It's hard to cause I've limited interaction with others to know that I find it hard to understand people. I'm the only person I know on the spectrum but would be nice to find someone else to share thoughts with that are similar to me .



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08 Apr 2021, 9:58 pm

I have a clear, to me, experiential view of NT's fixed mind blindness to patterns and most all abstractions. I admit to my mind blindness to their concretenesses. However, I can see and know the differences, even appreciate some of theirs. Their concretenesses tho seems to carry with it an arrogant superiority complex that I have to avoid. It's pitiful and unbearable in large doses. (My shortfall no doubt.)



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09 Apr 2021, 9:07 am

FYI to all: Attributing disagreeable behavior to an entire population based on observations and experiences of a very small fraction of that population is fallacious reasoning at best, and abject bigotry at worst.

Please stop making false claims as the racists and sexists do on this website.


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