Stress May Be Your Heart's Worst Enemy

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03 Jan 2022, 8:48 pm

Yahoo!, attributed to the New York Times: "Stress May Be Your Heart's Worst Enemy"

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Chronic psychological stress, recent studies indicate, may be as important — and possibly more important — to the health of your heart than the traditional cardiac risk factors. In fact, in people with less-than-healthy hearts, mental stress trumps physical stress as a potential precipitant of fatal and nonfatal heart attacks and other cardiovascular events, according to the latest report.
Autism could qualify as a nearly ever-present stress for someone, couldn't it?
Apparently I was born with a less-than-healthy heart. Coincidentally, in 2019 I was both diagnosed as being (mildly) Autistic and also informed it was time for me to have some very nontrivial heart surgery.


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03 Jan 2022, 9:00 pm

I have a congenital heart defect and I've suffered two strokes. The first was likely from stress. The second was from pain-related stress. I certainly agree that we're subject to ongoing stress throughout our lives and that likely puts people in danger even if they're born with a healthy heart.


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03 Jan 2022, 11:35 pm

So I'm going to have a heart attack soon then. :(


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03 Jan 2022, 11:39 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I have a congenital heart defect and I've suffered two strokes. The first was likely from stress. The second was from pain-related stress. I certainly agree that we're subject to ongoing stress throughout our lives and that likely puts people in danger even if they're born with a healthy heart.


The only time I have had real heart issues is when I have had panic attacks. They don't come often since I am on medication which reduces anxiety.

But yeah, nothing more lovely than doing deep breaths, feeling like you have to take in oxygen like a hoover to compensate for your heart scrunching into a ball of paper :roll: (proverbially speaking).



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03 Jan 2022, 11:50 pm

My blood pumps backward any time I sneeze, making it possible for a stroke. Something weird like that. I didn't quite understand in my post-stroke confusion. It wasn't discovered until then and they decided not to operate. I'm supposed to "wait and see" what happens. lol - very reassuring. Now I kind of panic when I have a cold, like right now I seem to have Omicron and my oxygen levels are low at 91 - 94%.


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"Persistence of patent foramen ovale (PFO) is present in up to 25% of general population. Under normal circumstances, this is of little relevance as the left atrial pressure is higher than that of the right and the PFO is functionally closed most of the time. However, during coughing, sneezing, diving, and other conditions of increased endothoracic pressure, the PFO can open allowing potential for right-to-left shunt. This opens the cerebral circulation to the systemic venous circulation and has been implicated in the pathogenesis of stroke."


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04 Jan 2022, 12:55 pm

^ 8O Yeah stress is a big hazard. People need relief from strain, or they become shell shocked. It's the subtle effect it has over time which is the most insidious.


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04 Jan 2022, 1:09 pm

Speaking of backward
My heartbeat comes up inverse on a cardiogram.
Instead of the peaks going up, they go down.
And that's about as technical as I can get about it.
I've had ultrasound on my heart and worn a monitor around.
The abnormality doesn't affect me overmuch.
And gives the medical staff something to freak out about.


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04 Jan 2022, 1:12 pm

I don't know what that could indicate. Maybe it means you have alien blood, are of different race ,superior to mere humans. Or it could just be a glitch on the cardiogram.


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04 Jan 2022, 1:14 pm

makes sense



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04 Jan 2022, 1:18 pm

It's my electric personality, throwing off the equipment. :D


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04 Jan 2022, 1:35 pm

Raleigh wrote:
Speaking of backward
My heartbeat comes up inverse on a cardiogram.
Instead of the peaks going up, they go down.
And that's about as technical as I can get about it.
I've had ultrasound on my heart and worn a monitor around.
The abnormality doesn't affect me overmuch.
And gives the medical staff something to freak out about.


Must be an Australian thing for both of us. I mean me. You. Them. Whoever we are.


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04 Jan 2022, 6:36 pm

Autistic related stress factors hadn't ever been my biggest of worries.

Except possibly for hormonal related stress from the menstrual cycle -- from physiological (not psychological) anxiety to sleep disorders to temporary hypersensitivities to varying gut issues despite what I'm eating (this includes nothing).


As for my heart... It's mostly normal. Sometimes slower heartbeat as I work out.
And tend to have below average blood pressure. May or may not be why I'm anemic.

The biggest issues I have with my heart might be very much to do with my chronic breathing issues.
It's a stupid curse I got from my mother's side. I'd rather get hypertension or obssesity than this alleged "allergy".

It's even the main source of my stress. The physiological reactions most especially.
Definitely a source of issues from sleep issues to brain fog.


However, my stress always reaches my head. And it could hurt.

Not because of overwhelm from the outside, but because of some overwork from the inside.

It's like I'm trying to hit a metal wall with my fists when I'm trying to think.
It's either a form of brain fog or a form of a stupid habit created from coping with brain fog because my head is being tricked into thinking it's still the case.
If only there's a way to tell the difference.


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04 Jan 2022, 7:46 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
"Persistence of patent foramen ovale (PFO) is present in up to 25% of general population. Under normal circumstances, this is of little relevance as the left atrial pressure is higher than that of the right and the PFO is functionally closed most of the time. However, during coughing, sneezing, diving, and other conditions of increased endothoracic pressure, the PFO can open allowing potential for right-to-left shunt. This opens the cerebral circulation to the systemic venous circulation and has been implicated in the pathogenesis of stroke."
Apparently PFOs really are not uncommon. Recently someone in the Cardiology department that handles my bride and me explained it as the fetal heart has some blood flow shortcuts that close off when you are born...unless it doesn't...and one of those shortcuts is the "foramen ovale". They were explaining to us what a PFO is—the usual explanation is there is an extra hole in your heart.

I mentioned that in 2019 they informed me I needed some very nontrivial heart surgery but the surgery did not happen until 2020. They later reported that while they were in there they closed a PFO I had...that they had never previously mentioned.


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04 Jan 2022, 7:51 pm

Yes - that's what I was told too. Mine was only detected on the Echocardiogram after my first stroke. I think it was called a Bubble Echo? When I saw the Cardiologist they said they'd just leave it. I certainly didn't want heart surgery but considering I've had a second stroke I don't know what I'm waiting for next. They also said that PFO with migraine auras / visual migraines can lead to strokes. I've had auras all my life. Oh well - I'm alive and don't really want the surgery anyway.

I'm glad your surgery went well and they were able to fix both!


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04 Jan 2022, 8:08 pm

Migraine auras, I'll; have to look out for that. I've had white flashes in corner of eyes, momentary high blood pressure to optic nerve most likely, this is after lifting heavy stuff, or being really tired, or some over straining activity, though. I once had blurred vision once momentarily. Again high physical strain. Hoping you maintain a strong healthy " :heart: " , must be scary, to live with that, it's like a psychological sword of Damocles.


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04 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I'm glad your surgery went well and they were able to fix both!
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