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09 Feb 2022, 10:50 am

I don't know if problem solving is supposed to be a strength or a weakness that comes with autism. I know it's down to the individual and all that but I'm talking about the criteria for autism; sometimes it says autism means good problem solving skills but other times it means poor problem solving skills. I'm good at problem solving, is this supposed to be a trait or isn't it? Is it an ADHD trait? Or is it just a personality trait and has nothing to do with autism? Is problem solving (or lack thereof) an autism trait or an NT trait or what?

So many contradictions, I don't even know what are traits and what aren't any more.


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09 Feb 2022, 11:03 am

Problem-solving is a human trait that may (or may not) be present to a greater or lesser degree in each individual.



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09 Feb 2022, 11:05 am

There are times when I'm excellent in problem-solving; there are times when I absolutely suck at it.



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09 Feb 2022, 11:16 am

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09 Feb 2022, 12:27 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There are times when I'm excellent in problem-solving; there are times when I absolutely suck at it.

Me too. Depends on the nature of the problem. If it's to do with material reality, I often do well. If it's to do with bureaucracy, I often shrink from it. I have a lot of trouble dealing with anything where humans have imposed irrational assumptions onto the matter.

I think Kierkegaard overstated the case. Sure, there would be a downside to seeing life as nothing more than problem-solving, but there's also a downside to being just a passive spectator. Water wouldn't come out of the taps if everybody was like that.



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09 Feb 2022, 3:22 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I don't know if problem solving is supposed to be a strength or a weakness that comes with autism. I know it's down to the individual and all that but I'm talking about the criteria for autism; sometimes it says autism means good problem solving skills but other times it means poor problem solving skills. I'm good at problem solving, is this supposed to be a trait or isn't it? Is it an ADHD trait? Or is it just a personality trait and has nothing to do with autism? Is problem solving (or lack thereof) an autism trait or an NT trait or what?

So many contradictions, I don't even know what are traits and what aren't any more.


Yes that is a complicated one.

What sort of problems do you mean? Obviously some problems are a lot easier to solve than others. Practical problem solvers tend to become managers in work place settings, and do well in their personal lives too, I would guess. I seem to be lagging a long way behind most of my peers and family.

I would say that in my own case it has taken me a very long time to begin to solve my own main personal problems of social anxiety and likely Autism. In a sense, there is no solution to these problems, only learning to adjust to them in the best possible way.

It has taken me so long to adopt a resilient and positive problem solving approach. Since I began to manage this a lot more consistently over the last couple of years or so, it feels like I have progressed quite rapidly in a number of ways. It's this approach that has made the key difference with regard to making some progress with my most difficult problems. Along with what feels like more self-awareness. These things have kind of come together and have fed each other in a beneficial way.

I'm really not sure what role Autism might play in any of this. Personally I'm not inclined to think that it has any direct effect on problem solving.. Indirectly, I would say that it has likely hindered my self awareness and contributed to me being drowned in negativity and self pity for so long, and that more than anything has really screwed up my problem solving, before I managed to overcome that to some extent.



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09 Feb 2022, 4:17 pm

It's up to the individual, why, and what problem.
I don't truly know how autism factors into this, except some of individual's OCD-like perfectionism tendencies.


It could be out of fascination, challenge or boredom.
Which might be done impulsively, and can be obnoxious to some when it comes to the idea of being right and orderly.

Or some weird attempt sympathy or full on altruism.
Or projection maybe, thinking something that happened to them the same, it may work to another.

Perhaps impatience or second hand frustration towards someone who's having a problem.
Solving problems not to serve others, but to put it frankly, to shut problems up.



Personally, I only try to solve or intervene at some stuff if I'm bored. Or actually impatient with something or someone.

Yet, I cannot pretend to be always in a right condition to do it properly.
Especially not in an unfamiliar place, not knowing what's permitted. Although I don't mind breaking any rule by myself.

Otherwise, intentions or not, it'll just complicate things at the wrong time and place. I hate to be ever the source of problems and concern myself.


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12 Feb 2022, 8:11 pm

I think it depends on the problem. I would probably put it this way. I think very different than most NTs. In general, I think like Mr. Spock in Star Trek. All logic, little emotion.


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12 Feb 2022, 8:31 pm

I'm good at solving little problems that I come across every day, like I can get creative. I'm not very good at solving technical problems, like if the washing-machine goes wrong or something I have no idea what to do to fix it. But I can use my imagination and improvise. That sort of thing.

Is that what Aspies are supposed to suck at and NTs be good at, or are NTs supposed to suck at that and Aspies be good? Is that even problem solving?

Define "problem solving" by using a simple example.


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12 Feb 2022, 11:23 pm

I can solve very complex problems. I cannot solve simple ones. I make the complex simple and the simple complex. The first past of that phrase is what colleagues say about me, but I know they are polite in not saying the second part. :wink:



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14 Feb 2022, 8:09 am

At times, Im a problem solver.

Other times, Im absolutely stymied.



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14 Feb 2022, 11:37 am

I think I'm a very good problem solver. The thing is, I usually go for the fastest, easiest, most direct way to solve the problem. My wife and kids might have, say, a six step way to solve a problem when I can solve it in two steps. That's where my brain is an advantage -- I like things direct and to the point.



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14 Feb 2022, 1:55 pm

When they say problem solving, I assume they mean with math right. Problem solving is a human trait and men are more prone to this than women. `


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14 Feb 2022, 2:01 pm

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I just took it to mean problem solving in general. Don't know if I was right or wrong to do that.



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14 Feb 2022, 2:30 pm

I can be a good problem solver but my husband is better at it than me because he doesn't get upset that easily like I do. When it comes to my son, I can solve his problems easily when he gets upset because things he gets upset about isn't a big deal to me and there is always a solution to it.


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14 Feb 2022, 3:24 pm

Some people get stuck because they run out of options or cannot think of anything to try next - this doesn’t happen to me. I sometimes get overwhelmed seeing too many things to try like the domino effect leading to an avalanche.