narcissistic personality and autism

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there are huge differences between them

stop comparing them

It seems that people who are a bit needier are judged as narcissistic than the others who don't deal with the same stuff.

Can't ignore pain and need for help? Narcissistic.

Don't have sensory filters to block out details that is registered as equally important?
Narcissistic.

Can't get along because no one gets it and everyone is allowed to be hypocritical?
Narcissistic.

Have communication issues, trying to fix it, cause communication is a fickle thing to interpret?
Narcissistic.

Wanting a time alone, and also can't have schedules full because you're so exhausted?
Narcissistic.

Abused as a child? Pampered as a child?
Narcissistic.

Have a form of emotional dysregulation, ends up being too sensitive or insensitive as a result?
Narcissistic.

Triggered? Narcissistic. Don't react enough? Narcissistic.

Drawing facts? Offering reasoning? Stating opinions?
Narcissistic.

Defensive? Narcissistic. Can't defend? Cause it's true because narcissism.

Wanting friends/romance/family/pets/children? Narcissistic.
Not wanting friends/romance/family/pets/children? Narcissistic.

Hungry? Narcissistic.
NOT hungry? Still narcissistic.


Yeah, it's autism's fault I got hit by a lightning. Or that lightning causes autism.

Conclusion: Everyone's a hypocrite.

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Anybody who doesn’t agree with you seems to be a “narcissist” these days.

I agree. I don't fit many of the traits of Narcissitic Personality disorder. I care about others.

I take to heart the fact that someone with more difficulty is often unjustly called narcistic.

I guess it has common usage and a more clinical usage.

One thing I find interesting about people with Narcistic Personality Disorder is a theory about it's origins. Supposedly, some people think that people with the disorder do not have a stable internal sense of self. Their sense of self fluctuates. Supposedly, it can come from a parent that praises, loves or shows attention to a child for qualities such as being better than other people.

Personally, I have a stable sense of self. I am thankful that somewhere in my past I developed a sense of self.

As a side note: I was watching a description of Nietchzie's Theory of the Morality of Slaves. Supposedly, much of morality comes from religion which is tied to the time when the jews were slaves in Egypt. Part of that is obviously not to be selfish. It was food for thought. I won't suggest watching the youtube video because I know everyone has different interests.

I think narcissists are playing a kind of double blind game, where they fool themselves as well as others.

They have an unstable sense of self which requires external validation. When they don't receive that, they take actions to prop up their self-esteem by ensuring they are always in control and dominating others. Unfortunately, others may mistake this behaviour as equivalent to "self-confidence" and "leadership potential", thus validating the narcissist.

The narcissist continues the behaviours until stopped by someone with power over them. When stopped from getting their way, the narcissist has a hissy fit / tantrum. The vocal nature of the tantrum draws to them others who also feel wronged by people in power. The support of these people prop up their self-esteem all over again.

Instead of apologising for bad behaviour the narcissist convinces themselves and those around them that it was justified by the actions of the one who would not bow down to them. They will exaggerate and lie about what this person has done until they create a "truth" of what happened to suit their personal agenda. By this stage, they are well past the point of recognising the influence of their deep-seated insecurities.

The above illustrates why it is so hard to stop narcissists. Even the worst things they do can earn them support from some. (Just look at Trump).

There doesn't seem to be much overlap, if any, between autism and narcissism. The nature of autism makes it very difficult if not impossible to generate enough approval from those around us to prop up our self-esteem. If anything, many of us are the opposite, we are too aware of our internal insecurities and lack self-confidence, because of the way we have been misunderstood and badly treated by others throughout our lives.

People just get confused because we tend to be naturally a bit self-centred, and have to work hard at connecting with others. When we get too tired to do it or get it wrong, they assume we don't care

Some believe that having some small amount of narcissism is necessary to be normal and healthy as opposed someone that hates themselves. Every thing is a spectrum and the only good thing about narcissism is less likely to do harm.