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21 Oct 2022, 4:54 am

I'm gonna go feral on the next asswipe I see contributing to cringe culture. It's literally "marketable" harassment at this point because "bullying" isn't seen to be as mainstream and "cool" anymore (even though it's still super prevalent).

SO many people "calling out" so-called cringey behavior are just making fun of ND, often autistic, people. If you don't enjoy something on the neurotypically-approved list of things that are okay to enjoy and you don't enjoy them in the patented Neurotypical way, you're basically a beacon for people who want to be evil for no reason but don't want to get called out.

It's just another form of social pressure designed to keep people, especially autistic people, from expressing joy in the way they want to.



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21 Oct 2022, 5:26 am

Also, what's "cool" one year will inexplicably become "cringe" the next year, which to me says that both judgements come out of the wrong end of a horse. Yet people live their lives by this.


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21 Oct 2022, 5:38 am

PhosphorusDecree wrote:
Also, what's "cool" one year will inexplicably become "cringe" the next year, which to me says that both judgements come out of the wrong end of a horse. Yet people live their lives by this.


Exactly! I wish it was just one year at this point, and I'm sure it is with some things, but in "pop culture" right now, it's very trendy to switch up on things in the span of a week or even a few days. It's exhausting for anyone, but especially for autistic people who can love something long after its "expiration date."



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21 Oct 2022, 5:45 am

Even amongst autistic people where they gather such as sites like this one, there can be issues where those who think differently get a hard time as even most autistic people try to be like everyone else. (Masking maybe or just ones common upbringing to be conditioned to think in a certain "Expected" way?)

I am not saying that thinking one way or another is good or bad. I do think differently to many and this for me is who I am. It can be a great thing but one can also be put aside as if one is not relevent... As people don't want to hear what they are talking about in depth. They want to "Surface talk" where they don't like to know the minute details and so want to switch me off! Haha!
But there again I am one who quickly gets bored of surface talk... Smalltalk as it is known as...

But this does not mean that people are trying to be nasty and it does not mean that I can't talk and be appreciated. It just means that I wait for people to want to come to me rather than me coming to them. (Can get lonely as I am not really a "G!roup" person though I used to want to be but never really was able as there is that "Gap" in communication somehow where ones brains do not connect?)

I have been a total loner and have also been as part of groups. Being in groups does not last long before I kinda get pushed out, but being a loner is isolating, so the best idea I have done in my life is to specialize where people come to me... But the only downside is that they talk about the specialist subjects and don't neccessarily come to talk to me as in a normal conversation....
But there again a neighbour likes normal conversations and tries to get me involved in her conversations and I switch off.... She switches off when I talk as well as she gets bored about things I like to say... Haha! Does not mean we don't appreciate each other. Just means that I let my Mum talk to her instead so at least she is happy and I can do my own thing. Just don't like hanging around to be in conversations that I get nothing from due to switching myself off... But when I switch on they actually want me to switch off. HAHA!

But I talk on tangents a lot and have forgotton what this thread is about... Oops! Need to look.

[I don't know if I am on the spectrum or not just to let you know].



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21 Oct 2022, 6:00 am

One typical NT characteristic is to go through life sort of on "automatic pilot". A degree of comfort is derived from knowing that everybody else is doing what you are doing. When someone does something different, it can be upsetting.

The Japanese say that the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. It is ironic that some of the loudest proponents of diversity object the strongest to anything contrary.

There is no practical way to change other people, so the one who would be different has to judge when to keep a low profile.



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21 Oct 2022, 6:02 am

Interesting saying and yes. Keep a low profile is how I got through school.

There is a downside. Low profile means not asking vital questions so I sometimes got missed out.



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21 Oct 2022, 6:31 am

I often pray for Chris Chan, as his life seems totally ruined, partly because of the trolls.

I think thats the biggest example. Other people have committed suicide because of being humiliated online.



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21 Oct 2022, 6:43 am

I suppose I'd need examples to help me understand, but most cringe behavior I can recall having witnessed seems more like extreme NT behavior gone out of control.


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21 Oct 2022, 10:35 am

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I often pray for Chris Chan, as his life seems totally ruined, partly because of the trolls.

I think thats the biggest example. Other people have committed suicide because of being humiliated online.


Isn't that the person who was arrested for allegedly SAing their mother? That's definitely not the type of "cringe" I was talking about. I meant normal, non-offending people who get made fun of for liking things like Dungeons and Dragons or anime or something.



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21 Oct 2022, 11:08 am

TouchOfTism wrote:
klanka wrote:
I often pray for Chris Chan, as his life seems totally ruined, partly because of the trolls.

I think thats the biggest example. Other people have committed suicide because of being humiliated online.


Isn't that the person who was arrested for allegedly SAing their mother? That's definitely not the type of "cringe" I was talking about. I meant normal, non-offending people who get made fun of for liking things like Dungeons and Dragons or anime or something.


Yeah, I think that particular individual ruined their own life.


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21 Oct 2022, 11:53 am

Chandler did lot of cringe and even though I can see lot of myself in him, I was never that worst off I was incapable of listening to other people to modify my behaviors and change how I act. I cringe at myself when I tried to get a BF in high school by asking if he will be my BF and we are only 9 months apart (not taking no for an answer) and reassuring him I wasn't looking for sex so not to worry. Looking back I realize I acted like he was some sort of predator and thinking that was why he didn't want to date me because he didn't want to be a predator so I was like "Not to worry, I don't want sex, I just want a boyfriend."

My mom did laugh at this story when she heard about it at my IEP meeting and then lectured me about how you get a boyfriend. Did Chris's mom ever lecture him about how to get a girlfriend? I doubt he would have listened if she even tried and just continue hanging out at malls and places with signs saying he wants a girlfriend and having it up like it's an ad.


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21 Oct 2022, 12:56 pm

I just allow myself to like what I like for as long as I wish instead of worrying how cringe it is.


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21 Oct 2022, 1:23 pm

Is this about shaming awkward/odd/different people, usually autistic people? I thought that was actually full-on bullying. People just can't stop bullying. It's in their nature. They are always trying to find "inferior" people so that they can feel good about themselves.



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21 Oct 2022, 1:26 pm

temp1234 wrote:
Is this about shaming awkward/odd/different people, usually autistic people? I thought that was actually full-on bullying. People just can't stop bullying. It's in their nature. They are always trying to find "inferior" people so that they can feel good about themselves.



Cringe is aimed at anyone. I have even heard of ABDL cringe. I have heard of LGBT cringe and Tik Tok cringe. I'm not going to assume every one of these individuals are on the spectrum. It just seems to be a trend to call everything cringe you don't like.


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21 Oct 2022, 1:28 pm

Cringe Culture only exists on social media. Most people in the real world don't pay much attention to what might or might not be "cringey" in the first place.



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28 Oct 2022, 2:54 am

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