The hype vs the reality. Same for any of you?

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25 Oct 2022, 6:26 pm

The hype.

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The reality. I'm like the baseball player that batted .310 in the minor leagues. Stepped up to the major leagues and ended up with a .235 average. Being online plays to my strengths. Offline it's the total opposite.



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25 Oct 2022, 6:30 pm

I can relate to that, certainly.

I'm about a .235 hitter in life, too. The difference is that I was under the Mendoza Line for most of my childhood and adolescence. The Mendoza line is .200.

Are you a baseball fan?



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25 Oct 2022, 10:51 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I can relate to that, certainly.

I'm about a .235 hitter in life, too. The difference is that I was under the Mendoza Line for most of my childhood and adolescence. The Mendoza line is .200.

Are you a baseball fan?


I'm less of a baseball fan than I used to be, re keeping up with what's happening. I always want the SF giants to do well because of having lived in San Francisco between 1965-1968. I remember names such as Willie Mays,Juan Marichal,Gaylord Perry, and Willie McCovey. I remember feeling a little peed off when the Dodgers with the great Sandy Koufax won the NL pennant.

I collected Topps baseball cards.Unfortunately my father got rid of those, and many other things I had, when taking up a post as British consul general to Atlanta. He put the family home up for sale and chucked loads of stuff belonging to me out.. I was in psych hospital at the time, and was only made aware of things months later.



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26 Oct 2022, 6:02 am

Simplistic declarative statements are seldom "true". They are often used to express or create emotional effects. It can be especially confusing if one has the expectation that language is supposed to express, if not truth, than at least accuracy.



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26 Oct 2022, 6:26 am

Not sure what the baseball numbers mean. Translate to train talk? :D



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26 Oct 2022, 6:34 am

timf wrote:
Simplistic declarative statements are seldom "true". They are often used to express or create emotional effects. It can be especially confusing if one has the expectation that language is supposed to express, if not truth, than at least accuracy.



I firmly believe that to be a genius requires a certain level of creativity irrespective of how high your IQ is. Even when most creative, in my mid 20s, I wasn't at that level.Those comments were from people who see genius as an IQ based thing.



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26 Oct 2022, 7:02 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
Not sure what the baseball numbers mean. Translate to train talk? :D


Like travelling on one of those nasty Pacer trains, I imagine.


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26 Oct 2022, 7:19 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
Not sure what the baseball numbers mean. Translate to train talk? :D


I would if I could. Think of a high quality, well designed train vs one far from well designed.



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26 Oct 2022, 8:17 am

More or less.

And it's not limited to IQ and test scores, and with what I can and cannot do.


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26 Oct 2022, 8:20 am

Trueno wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
Not sure what the baseball numbers mean. Translate to train talk? :D


Like travelling on one of those nasty Pacer trains, I imagine.


Used to work them and loved their simplicity as they were the most exciting trains I worked. The 143's were real racehorses and could easily out accelerate most other DMU type trains and many a time we out accelerated HST's in them and caught them up at each station and had to wait a few minutes outside...



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26 Oct 2022, 8:44 am



Top of the Heap of 'Standard IQ' Eventually Landed me
Higher Retirement Pay After Enduring the Golden Handcuffs
of A Quarter of A Century of Federal Employment After 3 Degrees

in College
Yet When i started
That Job At the Very Bottom
Totally Focused on Providing
Happiness For Other Folks Even
Though i Was Extremely Uncomfortable
in my Own Skin in Terms of Emotional Regulation

And Sensory Integration All The Way Through Making
All Social Interactions And New Challenges Rather Overwhelming;

The Part of Work in Working With Others Made me "FeeLeD" Up With Warmth
Within Enjoying Being Part of Humanity even though it Was Challenging Indeed;

What Wore me Down to Eventual "Autism Burn-Out" AKA "General Adaptation Syndrome"

Was Moving Up the Ladder Just to Stay in A Job With 'Screen Time' All Day Long in "Information
Technology Support" For my Department; Financial Management And Accounting And Such
As that Along With Program Administration, Management, And Supervision of Up to 131
Employees Overall As Second in Command at A Military Department on A Station When

my Boss Was Out; It's True, Humans Are Evolved to Focus on One Task And Particularly

Not A Mix of Mechanical Cognition And Social-Empathic Cognition Duties All at once

Yet i Was in No Position to say no in Constant Reductions in Force Through 5 Job
Changes and Promotions in the Last 5 Years of Work Spending A Year and A Half
on Sick and Annual Leave at the End of that Quarter of a Century of Federal Employment;
Yes, Early Retiring Yet With 19 Medical Disorders mostly As A Consequence of the Last 11 Years
of Federal Employment in Chronic to Acute Fight or Flight Level Stress Flooding my Blood Streams

With Stress Hormones
Sitting Still Behind a
Screen With So Many
Unrelated Tasks to Do;

Just No Way to Burn Off the
Stress Hormones Day in Day Out,
Day In Day Out Until the Wash, Rinse,
And Dry Cycle of my Machine Broke Down;

And It took 'em About Two Years to Find Labels
for All the Broken Processes of my Bodily Systems then;

The Hardest part "Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia," The
Worst Pain Known to Humankind, Shut-in Mostly in my Bedroom
For 66 Months then Eventually Coming to the 'Wrong Planet' on Thanks
Giving Day of 2010 to Write And Get my Mind off What is Literally Assessed
in Medical Literature As the 'Suicide Disease.' i Was Basically 'Stuck Between
Two Ears' For the First 33 Months Until i Came to the 'Wrong Planet' on that Day

Enduring Every Word As A Mountain of Pain to Write As Even With The Screen Light
Turned All the Way Down; Yes, Unrelenting Pain in my Right Eye and Ear That Could

Not Withstand Colors or Sound; i Tolerated The pain enough to Try to Get my Mind
off it By Writing From Wake to Sleep Just to Survive. IF i had Stayed At the Lower Level

Working Position, i'd Probably Still Be Working There With No Diagnoses at all Yet That Would
Have Been Before Supervisor And Manager For Sure As i Just Wasn't Cut Out to Do So Many

Tasks All at Once As Really Humans Are not Evolved to Do That; Particularly, Separated From

Meaning and Purpose in Life Still Moving Connecting And Co-Creating With Others That Way in Flesh and Blood...

Anyway, Stellar Standard IQ, Helped me to Retire High Low in Hell And Also Helped me to Fill Out 100 Pages of
Medical Documentation to Get Approved for Disability All the Way Around on the First Try; Yet on the Other Hand again

When You Are in HeLL ON EartH
And You Cannot Even Remember
The Feeling if You Ever Smiled at
All As the Numbness Becomes More

Challenging than the 'Worst Pain' Known to
Humankind, You May Stop to Wonder Why the

Janitor At the Headquarters of the Navy Station
Smiles through the Whole Day Saying Hello to Everyone
With Shining Eyes As the Executive Officer of the Station Enduring

Just As Much Stress As the Rest of the Folks in the Building Says it Just
Isn't Fair, 'Walker' (The Name of the Janitor) Is Always Happy Just Being Janitor

As He Was Part of a Program for the Intellectually Challenged Folks in Life with
Perhaps A Standard IQ Closer to 70 Than the Really Smart Folks Like My Boss Who

Said in His Previous
Jobs it Wasn't much
Different Than China
As there were Days he
Literally Wanted to Jump Out
of His Office Building Window;

He Was My Age Now Then And
That Dude Aged Decades in Reality
Beyond What i Am Now After NOT Working For
Pay For the Last 14 Years and 9 Months And Finally
Recovering Out of Hell for 66 Months into the 'Nicer
Place' Now for 111 Months and 7 Days, oh the Monster

of Mechanical
Cognition Serves
As a Useful Slave

Yet When the Master
of Emotional And Sensory
Intelligences in Ways of Regulation
And Integration Falls Away; Basically,

Chronic to Acute Stress Will Harm,
Maim, And Rape All that is Good In Life
That is 'You' And Yes Literally Kill Potentially

As Well in A Much Earlier Demise For REALLY Real...

The First 53 Years of my Life Were A Science Project

Most Definitely to Figure Out the Fredenstein Brain Of me...

Yet it Wasn't Just 'the Brain' i Had to Figure Out, it Was A Deeper Soul

of Social-Empathic-Artistic-Real Emotional Sensory Spiritual iMaGiNaTiVE

Creative Intelligence For Real;

It's True, i've Been Named Genius
And Superman for my Standard IQ
And What it Did Do through 3 Degrees
in College and 33 Total Years of Work too...

It's True, IT paid the Bills and Made for A
Heavily Padded Retirement Where i No Longer
Bleed in Any Economic Way of the So-Called 'American Dream'...

Yet Did it Eventually Make Life Worth Living in Short: HELL NO HELL YES HELL SUCKS!

Now, i Not Only Do iMaGiNaTiVE And Creative Art, i Have Metaphorically and Literally

Become a Free
Dance And Song;

i No Longer Live

in A Grey SHade World
Drab Through BLaCK Abyss;

i Paint Heaven With Art of
iMaGiNaTioN And Creativity
Within And Spread Those Winds

CoLoRinG NeW Where other Folks Can And Will
And Do Relate to that Potential Now of Humanity More...

Yet It's True As Common Sense 'Dictates' for Original Creativity
As Sure In Many Instances i've Been Named Profound Genius for
That As Well In Those Circles of Human Potential In Life; there is

No Ready-Made
Target Audience
for What is New
And Original; And For

Folks Who Actually Do it,
It isn't likely Gonna Pay the
Bills; And if You Are Gonna Really

Do Original Without worrying about
Pleasing Any Target Audience, iNdeed

Without that Economic Ready-Made Already

Padding, Ya Might Be A Bleeding Starving Artist For Real...

i Would Not Trade All the Years of 0 To 53 in That World of
Mechanical Cognition For One Day As Living As Free Dance And Song Today;

However, my
Attitude Would
Likely Be MUCH DIFFERENT
IF i WAS STARVING TO DEATH OF COURSE FOR REAL...

SLIVERS OF HEAVEN ARE REAL IN LIFE; iNdeed, Getting

Here and Staying is Both a Challenge and Adventure oF A Lifetime For Real..:)



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