How to explain to people who don't understand about anti-ds

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16 Aug 2007, 3:38 pm

Some people say that depression is a state of mind and you can control it and dall that, and you can, but sometimes you need to help the affected person control it by using antidepressants. It's just a method; different methods work for different people. As for getting a life, a lot of people are either trying to get a life and can't, or have as much of a life as is humanly possible, and still have the depressive disorder; what then if not antidepressants?


How else can I explain? Is there a better way of explaining?



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16 Aug 2007, 3:52 pm

"Neurotransmitter levels in the brain are only partially controlled by the conscious mind."

If they don't understand that your wasting your time anyways :P


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16 Aug 2007, 4:05 pm

I get really depressed to the point where I feel like renting a helicopter so I can get my head chopped off as quickly as possible by the movement of its blades.. :?

Yet I can still control it, but it took time and a particular focus to gain the control.



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16 Aug 2007, 4:52 pm

Majick web page with all the answers

All the proof you'll ever need to explain to people why, no, you can't just snap out of it.



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16 Aug 2007, 4:59 pm

Ana54 wrote:
How else can I explain? Is there a better way of explaining?

You can, as suggested above, try to explain that a lot of this is neurotransmitters and therefore cannot consciously be changed, if that doesn't work then likely nothing will. An alternative would be to swear very loudly, while gesticulating wildly at them and calling them idiots. It won't help them understand, but you may feel better afterwards.


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16 Aug 2007, 6:04 pm

Anie wrote:
Majick web page with all the answers

All the proof you'll ever need to explain to people why, no, you can't just snap out of it.



LOL can you get better sources than that??

You can just snap out of it.. Just think about something awesome and spectacular then do something creative that stimulates you positively. It requires a belief in oneself and ability to overcome anything... it's really simple. It's all a matter of mental revaluation.

This is coming from a guy who has thought about suicide about 13 times in the past 4 months...... including renting a helicopter to cut my head off, because that would be badass. Yes working a desk job is DEPRESSING when all you want to do is record and write music.



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16 Aug 2007, 6:46 pm

If you don't believe in yourself and fall back on deceptions of course you're not going to be able to overcome yourself.

I can control my stress levels, how? Well first off, whats the point in being stressed? Once I realized that it only hurt me and hindered me from getting things done, I realized that there really is no point. I still get stressed, but I find it a lot easier to cool down now by just using my mind to think around it. All it takes is a bit of creative thinking.

Anything is possible. You just have to make it possible.



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16 Aug 2007, 6:51 pm

FYI I have studied brain chemistry and am educated.



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16 Aug 2007, 7:56 pm

Well I'm glad you could do it, but I'd be long dead without my SSRIs.



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16 Aug 2007, 7:58 pm

That's cool and I respect that. :)



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16 Aug 2007, 8:35 pm

Cool.;-)
Some people will really eat your face off for taking anti-ds. I think it depends on what caused the depression too. If it shows up out of nowhere and links to nothing, then chances are your brain is having an issue. :P
I still get depressed over things, but it feels different then the old kind. I can fight with the new kind rationally, but the old kind was like a black hole.

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16 Aug 2007, 8:48 pm

I spent all of April 2005 and most of May 2005 in an absolutely black depression. I couldn't sleep, participate in any of my favorite activites, and there was nothing I could do. It was then that I was prescribed my first antidepressants. They got rid of the depression, but the catch 22 is I'm now seventy-five pounds overweight and I don't feel happy, just not too sad. I am grateful to be out of that depression, but so far, nothing I've tried actually makes me feel good.



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16 Aug 2007, 8:56 pm

SSRIs will make you fat, it's true.

As for making you feel good, SSRIs don't do that. They just stop you from drowning. After that, you have to swim to shore yourself. Best to have a good therapist to help with that part, because while you aren't drowning anymore, you're probably still wasted from the effort.

Getting obsessed with something usually helps me.;-)

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16 Aug 2007, 10:06 pm

Anie; I totally get you; my depression was like a black hole too and I still get very very depressed but it's a not-so-bad kind... sometimes I still get a few little black holes, but mostly my depression now is just being depressed about things. :D And I lost weight (and am still losing weight) on Celexa, so it depends what SSRI; I think the others make you fat but Celexa isn't like the others and some studies have even shown that. :)



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17 Aug 2007, 10:34 am

I have a hunch that all depression is linked to some kind of obscure existential issue concerning the human condition that the sufferer may not completely understand or have uncovered.



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17 Aug 2007, 7:33 pm

i think you can only control depression to a point, some of its nasty and no matter how hard to try to stop it it just gets worse!


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