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Aeturnus
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29 May 2006, 2:08 am

Do you live in New York and have some sort of disability, learning or whatever? If you do, then it might be best that you get out of the state and don't look back. You haven't seen anything until you've read this!

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29 May 2006, 8:05 am

Gosh, and my mother wonders why I do not want to return to New York :roll:


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29 May 2006, 10:36 am

I heard on tv New Yorks so loud people lose their hearing.



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29 May 2006, 10:59 am

i live in the uk and my son who is four has an autistic spectrum disorder, i am totally horrified!! ! i have started to circulate the link amongst my uk friends to sign the petition, it is just morally and ethically wrong, plain and simple wrong! the money they are probably spending on that treatment would be better spent learning how to communicate with severley disabled children and autists and on working wiht these parents to find out why they are so scared of their own children that they'd even consider it!



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29 May 2006, 1:36 pm

I can't understand how anyone could decide to make such horrible things legal. :( I hope someone stops this soon, I feel so sorry for the poor children who have to attend these schools! :cry: For a while I quite liked the idea of moving to New York someday, but now it suddenly doesn't seem like such a good idea anymore, especially if I plan on ever having children myself...


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29 May 2006, 1:44 pm

No doubt it's about the money. Absolutely disgraceful, this isn't the Dark Ages.



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29 May 2006, 2:06 pm

There were several professionals on one parent group that were actually defending this place. There was another article several months ago about how NY spends millions to send kids there - instead of spending that money on instate programs. The exscuse was that this was the only thing (shocks) to help these kids and were very successful. But one of the advocates on there pulled out some information about complaints from the place and how they (at least in the past) were doing all kinds of aversive things. I really was surprised about all this when I read about it that this is considered acceptable treatment by some professionals. I thought that went out in the 70's. Of course they are still using other draconian measures to treat those with psychiatric illnesses too - so I guess society has not progressed.



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29 May 2006, 2:27 pm

this is so horrible.can someone like amnesty international for example be alerted to this?



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30 May 2006, 12:57 am

Lupine_Ragdoll wrote:
I feel so sorry for the poor children who have to attend these schools!


I know. So do I. It was as if I could almost feel the pain they must have gone through while reading the article. It was very disturbing, and I kept thinking how I might have ended up if I were exposed to stuff like that. One would think that we would want these kids to live the happiest life possible, yet we constantly try to make them cower in fear for the rest of their lives. Somebody needs to stick up for them, because I don't see any typical person doing it, that's for sure.

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30 May 2006, 12:59 am

lae wrote:
this is so horrible.can someone like amnesty international for example be alerted to this?


Yes, I imagine so. Maybe we should write them. I think we should write a lot of people. But, writing doesn't really amount to much ... because, if you think about, many of these people get hundreds, if not thousands, of emails on a daily basis, I would assume. They don't even read half of them, so the next step would be to create an action committee. That might work, so contacting people like Amnesty may not be a bad idea.

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30 May 2006, 1:49 pm

Edited.



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30 May 2006, 3:27 pm

This thing would not happen in Blity



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04 Jun 2006, 5:52 am

WOW! I suddenly feel a lot more fortunate..puts my life into perspective.



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04 Jun 2006, 11:36 am

are you sure this isn't some kind of joke? this is horrible! i'm most likely going to live in new york, but they can't do this to people.



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04 Jun 2006, 12:27 pm

how would one go about putting together an action committee? I don't have the first clue. Any ideas?



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04 Jun 2006, 1:21 pm

I am in an Amnesty International group in my school, I will definitely pass this link on to them.