Does anyone else hate the Linux analogy?

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19 Jul 2023, 8:05 am

Preface: I would do ANYTHING to be NT. ANYTHING. I hate having ASD and if there was a cure, I would take it without second thought, because I would feel more feminine as an NT.

I especially do not like the analogy of NTs being windows and NDs being Linux. I hate Linux. I don't want to be the nerd, the uncool one. I want to be Mac, a sleek, pretty, sexy Mac.

I hate the NDs are Androids and NTs are iPhones even more, and insist that it's the reverse, that NDs are iPhones and NTs are Androids, because iPhones are prettier, and I want to be the pretty, popular, feminine one.

Does anyone else feel this way?



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23 Jul 2023, 8:36 am

I don't exactly hate those analogies, but I don't see much use in them either.



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23 Jul 2023, 9:18 am

No, because Linux is great.
I'd be more offended to be compared to Apple products, personally.


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23 Jul 2023, 9:53 am

Every Android device is running Linux. Not a Linux-like OS, actual Linux. So Linux is undeniably the most widespread OS in the world. Although as things stand, Windows is the best OS for how it's typically used in enterprises.

For a person with ASD to say they love Apple products is sort of like the character Zohar on the TV show On the Spectrum saying she yearns to be Normal. Apple has imposed a code of behavior on the world. They set the standard for what might be called "NT".


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23 Jul 2023, 11:15 am

There's the operating system analogy.
There's the culture and foreigners analogy.
There's the alien and earthlings analogy...

Then there's this bridges and ramps analogies....
Then there's the glasses analogy.
Then there's the RAM and ROM and manual scripting analogy.

Then there's whatever it is related to medical and social models analogy -- environmental, attitudinal and circumstantial barriers, and then whatever darwinistic arguments.


What I observed??

Former ones are differences, the latter ones are more on the realms to issues...

If it's inconsistency, it's almost always related to any executive dysfunction to whatever issues -- daily living, socialization, communication...

Whatever this is, it should be treatable.
The tricky part is knowing the trigger or state as to why is this. It's a type of vulnerability.

If it's consistent, it's very much related to a developmental disorder or a learning disability.

Whatever this is, it's trickier to discern if it's just a consistent and perpetuated version of the above, or something fix or compensate around.
But the fix part is also tricky -- was it really hardwired or was it deep programming like how personality itself is stubborn.


I could care less about analogies.

I just want to give a point across.
Yet that doesn't always often since most at the time they do not need to know.

Also I'm practically a decade behind from being involved deeper in tech relevant stuff.
As soon as I get a laptop -- or 2 years after at latest -- I'd brush it up again and pick up from where I left.

There's the programming of computers...
It's language, it's structures, the techniques, it's pros and cons...

And then there's the programming of the organic mind.
This includes the relative idea of what cool and lame means, the subjective like and dislike...

I could care less if someone wants to be an NT and be miserable because of it -- or loving themselves to be an ND and screw everyone. :lol:

I'd rather learn how much of that is a person's conscious choice and not some persuasion from socialization or propaganda.

Could care less of people's fantasy of cures against neurodivergence and exclusive societal privileges for neurodivergents.

Screw the collective consensus -- there's no consensus, just socialization and propaganda.



I don't like being human.

Could care less if it's attractive, feminine or masculine. Could care less if the respective neurology is Mac or Android or something more alien and ancient.

That's all there is to it in my case. As a person. As an autistic. As a human. As a 'woman'. Whatever.


Regardless whether I feel the same way or not...
I hate psychological needs.


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23 Jul 2023, 7:59 pm

OlympiaHoffmann wrote:
Preface: I would do ANYTHING to be NT. ANYTHING. I hate having ASD and if there was a cure, I would take it without second thought, because I would feel more feminine as an NT.

I especially do not like the analogy of NTs being windows and NDs being Linux. I hate Linux. I don't want to be the nerd, the uncool one. I want to be Mac, a sleek, pretty, sexy Mac.

I hate the NDs are Androids and NTs are iPhones even more, and insist that it's the reverse, that NDs are iPhones and NTs are Androids, because iPhones are prettier, and I want to be the pretty, popular, feminine one.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Welcome to WP. I am so sorry that you feel this way.


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23 Jul 2023, 8:00 pm

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No, because Linux is great.
I'd be more offended to be compared to Apple products, personally.
I agree


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23 Jul 2023, 8:44 pm

I hate the Linux analogy because I don't use Linux. It always lets me down. It's not RFTW. It's mainly for command line geeks. You can go forever with Windows and not have to use the command line, but with Linux you have to do it regularly. And Mac is only for people who hate Windows. Anything Apple is overpriced and overproprietary. No thanks...


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23 Jul 2023, 9:18 pm

Welcome to Wrong Planet. I wish it were under better circumstances.

Analogies are a secondary issue for you. Your hatred of your own autism is the primary issue.

We can’t cure you but we can possibly make your autism less onerous.

What is it about autism that is preventing you from feeling fully feminine?

What other aspects of autism is making your life misrable?


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24 Jul 2023, 2:02 am

OlympiaHoffmann wrote:
Preface: I would do ANYTHING to be NT. ANYTHING. I hate having ASD and if there was a cure, I would take it without second thought, because I would feel more feminine as an NT.


I'll agree on this one mostly, but that's it. To me, iPhones & most Apple products are crap because they make lots of (bad) assumptions & lack options. iPhones were the epitome of "my way or no way". F-that.

But iPhones are great for my early Boomer parents.



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30 Jul 2023, 6:45 am

I use Linux and also Mac.

Quite frankly, I don't want to be a Windows. It is a petty operating system. In a way, most people are Windows. I'd rather be a good Linux or a good Mac.


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30 Jul 2023, 5:44 pm

Don't worry so much about being pretty.

I'm not sure what to make of the OS analogy. I exclusively use Windows and Android. Apple products have always baffled me.



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09 Aug 2023, 9:32 am

OlympiaHoffmann wrote:
I hate the NDs are Androids and NTs are iPhones even more, and insist that it's the reverse, that NDs are iPhones and NTs are Androids, because iPhones are prettier, and I want to be the pretty, popular, feminine one.

What if I'm male? Maybe I don't want to be feminine.

I like to think that NTs are iPhones because both NTs and iPhones are patronising towards people who engage with them.


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09 Aug 2023, 9:34 am

skibum wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
No, because Linux is great.
I'd be more offended to be compared to Apple products, personally.
I agree

Seriously this. Apple products are so dumbed down that I feel insulted every time I use one.


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09 Aug 2023, 1:13 pm

Dont get it.
Apple is awesome. Or was awesome ten years ago. Better than this windows stuff I use now.

Dont know from Linux.



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09 Aug 2023, 1:18 pm

But as far as analogies go ...competing operating systems does seem like a bad analogy.

I would think that a NT with a neurosis is like a computer with a software problem. So the neurotic NT has to go to a shrink to get talk therapy to get what amounts to re education in order to correct that software problem. The software that one's bad parents programmed you with.

In contrast autism is a difference in hardware. Different wiring. Though an autistic can also have software correction needed as well.

Well...its a thought.