AI friends: is there anything that can help an ADHDer?

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06 Oct 2023, 4:55 pm

As the title says what would you recommend to ADHD/Aspergers person in need of some company?


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06 Oct 2023, 5:21 pm

are you asking about what type of person to seek out, or where to seek out said person, or what to do with said person?



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07 Oct 2023, 9:23 am

auntblabby wrote:
are you asking about what type of person to seek out, or where to seek out said person, or what to do with said person?

My guess is that it's about how to acquire company and friends.
I wish I knew. In my case it usually seems to be a matter of luck, though I did once pluck up the courage to walk into a folk club and ask if I could perform, which led to quite a bit of company. My main motive at the time was to play live music, but I suppose I was aware that it might lead to company.



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07 Oct 2023, 7:14 pm

Some people find friends/connections via a group related to a special interest. Example: you have a special interest in Lego - find a local AFOL (Adult Fans Of Lego) group - or Lego online community.
ADHD means hyperactive focus. Autism special interests are often a hyperfocus. I need variety. Physical activity is important to ADHDers. I like to walk - the variety of scenery helps me organize my brain. I used to bicycle a lot in college. The PhD who did my diagnosis said her ADHD/Autism patients say the ADHD seems to Fight the Autism at times the need for sameness vs the need for variety and stimulation. It can be a challenge.


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07 Oct 2023, 11:22 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
are you asking about what type of person to seek out, or where to seek out said person, or what to do with said person?

My guess is that it's about how to acquire company and friends.
I wish I knew. In my case it usually seems to be a matter of luck, though I did once pluck up the courage to walk into a folk club and ask if I could perform, which led to quite a bit of company. My main motive at the time was to play live music, but I suppose I was aware that it might lead to company.

you bring up a salient point, if you have a unique and popular skill [being a musician], that is a BIG door-opener.



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08 Oct 2023, 9:19 am

auntblabby wrote:
you bring up a salient point, if you have a unique and popular skill [being a musician], that is a BIG door-opener.

Take away the music and I'd barely have a friend in the world. It's good to be unusually skilled in something that's popular, but I think the method also works for shared interests and goals in general. I've heard it said that without common purpose any attempt at friendship is doomed to failure, and I think there's a lot of truth in that.



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08 Oct 2023, 9:23 am

I thought he was asking about Artificial Intelligence


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08 Oct 2023, 10:26 am

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I thought he was asking about Artificial Intelligence


Yeah. I dont understand that "AI" in front of the title either.

He probably meant "Internet friends", or "fellow netcitizens".

He is right that we are not face-to-face real life campanions to him. But we are still real people. Were not computer generated bots. If we were computer generated then that would make us "AI friends". Lol!



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08 Oct 2023, 11:59 am

A(letter Ay) I(letter Eye) can also mean “All Inclusive”. Or “Action Item” or “As If” or “Area of Interest”

And a number of other things:
AcronymFinder - AI

(Not all of which make sense in context)

Could be a typographical error for QU (Question)

Double-checked here - definitely letter I(letter Eye) and not numeral 1 (One) or lowercase L (letter EL).

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08 Oct 2023, 1:40 pm

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Making Friends When You’re On The Autism Spectrum

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February 24, 2021 by Dr. Tasha Oswald

Making friends doesn’t come easy for everyone, especially when you’re neurodiverse. Often individuals with autism struggle to make friends because they’re fearful of being vulnerable, experience social anxiety, and struggle with the social skills necessary to make new friends. However, there are some simple things you can do to open your heart to new friendships that will enrich your life for years to come. In this blog, I will discuss some of the struggles you may experience in making friends. Then, I will offer you tips for making friends on the autism spectrum.

Being vulnerable, especially when you’re on the autism spectrum can be frightening.

A lonely woman in a crowd sits on an outdoor bench representing the pain and loneliness many individuals with autism experience. Learn more about making friends on the autism spectrum from an autism evaluator in palo alto, ca. Learn more about dating on the autism spectrum and support for women with autism in Illinois.Many of my clients with autism share that they’re fearful of putting themselves out there in the hopes of making new friends. They’ve experienced rejection, conflict, and bullying. Because of these fears, they mask their autism in an attempt to fit into traditional neurotypical norms. Often the pressure they put on themselves to conform leads to exhaustion and even autistic burnout.

That is totally understandable and a very valid feeling. Being vulnerable is hard. It requires extreme courage to risk your heart and face the uncertainty of exposure. In fact, Brene Brown, a world-renowned researcher who studies vulnerability defines it as being composed of three factors: “uncertainty, risk, and emotional exposure.”

Some terms that may help you better understand vulnerability through a neurodiverse lens include:

Uncertainty: When you put yourself in a new social situation, or any situation for that matter, there’s always the worry that things will not go the way you want them to. In this case, it’s the uncertainty of not knowing how others will respond if you show up as your authentic self.

Risk: When you meet and open up to people, there’s always a risk that they will not accept you or like you. For individuals with autism, this risk can be very anxiety-producing. And, they are painfully aware of the risk of opening their hearts to others.

Emotional exposure: Emotional exposure is the act of expressing your emotions through words and behaviors. For individuals with autism, emotional exposure and expressing themselves may be very challenging. It is also equally challenging for them to interpret the subtle nuances and behaviors of neurotypical individuals.

Courage: Being vulnerable and opening yourself up to potential rejection takes courage. Especially since you may be worried about the outcome.

Intimacy: This is the result of being vulnerable. True intimacy requires vulnerability.

Can you relate to these thoughts and feelings? The act of being vulnerable can be very hard for individuals with autism, it requires extreme courage and strength. But, being vulnerable and authentic with others is actually very powerful. Pause for a second, think about how freeing it would be to take off your mask and reveal yourself to others. Although this does come with stress, uncertainty, risk, and the fear of being emotionally exposed, it can be worth it.

Tips for Making Friends When You’re Autistic:

I want to give you some tips for making friends on the autism spectrum. It may not be easy, but building a support system of friends and loved ones is a powerful antidote to loneliness and positive mental health.

1. Manage Your Anxiety

A big step in making friends when you’re on the autism spectrum is learning how to reduce the anxiety, specifically the social anxiety you may feel about making new friends. Perhaps, you’re concerned that you don’t know what to say in social situations, or maybe you’re concerned that others will misinterpret your lack of eye contact or discomfort in engaging in chit-chat as being rude. However, taking some deep breaths and reminding assuming positive intent from the people you speak to is important. This means, don’t automatically assume that they won’t like you or will misinterpret your autistic traits. They may, but they may not. Give other’s a chance, and be vulnerable with them, just like you may hope they would be with you.

2. Set Realistic Expectations

A very important part of dealing with your anxiety is appropriately managing your expectations. Initiating a conversation in the hopes of making a friend may go well, and it may not. Whatever the result, it’s okay to feel disappointed. That’s normal. But, remind yourself that if this initial conversation did not go well there are two places to go from here: 1. You could try again, maybe that person was having an off day or busy and was unable to reciprocate your efforts, or 2. You could let it go and assure yourself that a friendship with this person was not meant to be and move on. Success in this conversation does not dictate success in future conversations.

3. Learn How to Initiate Conversations

A woman initiates a conversation with a colleague at work. The represents women with autism learning social skills. Learn more about Palo Alto CA social skills classes and the support an autism evaluator in Palo Alto, CA can provide. Receive support for women with autism evaluator in Palo Alto, CA today.The next step is learning how to initiate conversations. Oftentimes, small talk is very challenging for individuals on the autism spectrum. But, it’s very hard for people who are neurodiverse. That being said, it’s not impossible to acquire this skill, it just takes patience and knowing how to talk to people you don’t know well.

Tip:
If initiating conversations is frightening to you, consider practicing these skills when you know you and the recipient share an interest. For example, you could practice initiating conversations at anime conventions, clubs, or even in a social skills group. When you share a common interest it’s often easier to find things to talk about.

4. Practice Mindfulness

Mindfulness helps you be present in the moment and relaxed. This really helps in social situations. No one enjoys talking to someone whose mind is obviously elsewhere. When you’re very anxious about making friends and navigating social situations, then you may be hyper-focused on that which causes you unintentionally ignore the person you’re speaking to. Although it’s unintentional, it can be very frustrating to the person you’re speaking to and it can come off as being rude.

5. Ease Into the Conversation By Asking Open-Ended Questions

When you’re speaking to people you may not know well begin by easing into the conversation. Stay away from close-ended questions (questions that require a yes or no answer) and instead ask open-ended questions. An example of an open-ended question is “What did you do this weekend? Asking open-ended questions will lead to more discussion. It can also reduce the need for you to talk if that makes you anxious or uncomfortable. Then, ask follow-up questions. This is important because it shows the person you’re speaking with that you’re interested in what they have to say.

6. Offer Validation

The last thing I want you to think about is offering them validation. Show them that you get and understand what they’re saying. Remember, validating others does not mean you have to agree with them. In fact, the Oxford Dictionary actually defines validation as “recognition or affirmation that a person or their feelings or opinions are valid or worthwhile.” Extending validation to the person you’re speaking to helps them feel confident, reassured, heard, respected, and relaxed. Essentially validation makes them feel good. This increases the likelihood that they enjoy talking to you and will want to do it again in the future.

The three steps to validation are:
1. Labeling their feelings
2. Label their feelings and why they felt that way
3. Normalize their feelings


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