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26 Jun 2024, 12:23 pm

long story short.

asperger was given twice but failed the ASD diagnosis.
failed ADHD and ADD tests.
got bipolar twice and then a manic depression diagnosis.
got high IQ in English and very high IQ in French.


Am I also on a wrong planet? :heart:



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27 Jun 2024, 2:40 pm

WP sounds like a good place for you. Welcome!

But, I'm curious. Under what circumstances were you diagnosed as having Asperger's?

And under what circumstances were you diagnosed as being ASD?

P.S. The primary requirements for being on WP are an interest in the topic and some manners. Welcome!


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27 Jun 2024, 10:42 pm

I'm not sure if I completely understand your post. If you were diagnosed with Asperger's in the past then you would be given an ASD diagnosis now because the term Asperger's is no longer used.

Also, bipolar and manic depression are essentially the same thing.



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27 Jun 2024, 10:45 pm

bee33 wrote:
I'm not sure if I completely understand your post. If you were diagnosed with Asperger's in the past then you would be given an ASD diagnosis now because the term Asperger's is no longer used.

Also, bipolar and manic depression are essentially the same thing.

Only if the OP had both an established diagnosis and supports. A good chunk of aspies do not qualify for an ASD diagnosis if they don't have both the diagnosis and supports. It's pretty screwed up, but it was apparently extremely important that we not allow people that don't absolutely need help and support to get any, because of reasons.

This is where the whole bit about people being thrown off the spectrum comes from.

EDIT: I guess this does depend a bit on which set of criteria are being used.



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28 Jun 2024, 2:05 am

manic depression is more classic terminology

bipolar is a modern take

for the 'tism my understanding is high or very high iq becomes the same thing

in retrospect:
centile 99 reading speed at the stroop test in English on the WAIS-IV
centile 99.9 on the verbal comprehension index of the French WAIS-IV
and then my methodology teacher said my mother tongue IQ would be above 160
not sure what he meant...



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28 Jun 2024, 2:20 pm

Who said you were an Aspie? Who said you were not ASD?

My understanding is there is a correlation between Asperger's and elevated IQ but it is not 100%...that is you can have neither, either, or both.

My understanding is that someone with Asperger's would, under latest DSM, probably qualify as ASD Level 1, Mild...but maybe not. But they would fall somewhere under ASD...Level 1, or 2, or 3.

P.S. I was professionally diagnosed as ASD-1. I do not need formal support. Maybe some patience, though. :roll:


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28 Jun 2024, 2:24 pm

What's formal support...is it like a social worker


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28 Jun 2024, 3:02 pm

babybird wrote:
What's formal support...is it like a social worker
I can't guarantee I'm getting the nomenclature right...

The psychologist that diagnosed me did not specify that any supports were required.

When I was still working I did not have any official required support plan. I kept a few windup toys and fidget toys on my desk but there was no paperwork required for that, I was just a little odd. I asked not to be assigned one office-mate because of the sinus noises he often made and, as a kindness, they did not put me in with him but there was no paperwork that I know of that formally got me a different office-mate. When technology supported it I often had a CD-player and headphone to give me more pleasant noises to hear but that was well within company policy. Etc. That is, the adjustments for me were not formal or listed as being medical...it was just choices made within existing frameworks.

Of course, I was not diagnosed until eight years after I had retired. It's a darn convenient thing that my "preferences" could be accommodated informally within normal operation parameters! Otherwise things might've gotten ugly.

When I finally got the formal diagnosis the psychologist primarily recommended that my bride and I continue learning about Autism. And that I might benefit by accessing some communities of adult Autistics...with a mention of Wrong Planet. And that I might be able to use some of the tools at https://autismandhealth.org/ to get my general medical care to accommodate my Autism...so far no luck on this, however.


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