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24 Jul 2024, 12:04 pm

Sometimes like solving math problems and memorising things is relaxing



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24 Jul 2024, 1:24 pm

Depends on what I'm trying to memorize


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24 Jul 2024, 4:03 pm

Sometimes. But other times it can do the opposite.


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24 Jul 2024, 7:25 pm

I definitely read and watch the same things over and over obsessively, as a way of relaxing. This has the end result of causing me to memorize things--books, movies, statistics--but I'm usually not engaged in any active, conscious effort at memorization.



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24 Jul 2024, 8:52 pm

No.

My short term memory sucks enough to never enjoy them that not even my special interests is tied to memorizing enumeration of stuff and infodumping them.

I can basically read, watch, listen something over and over again...
All I'd recall is it's basic patterns, but not much of details and it's numbing unless I slow down hard and not do it while stressed or under pressure let alone overwhelmed; I'd discover something new.
And even if it's my 5th time, I might have a different view all over. Which can be very confusing since I do remember watching but not particular details and it's context in hindsight.

Well, I can "memorize actions" or understand certain concepts without bothering what it is even called...
Instead of basically picking up the entire thing and hauling it over, mine is more or less filtered into some sort of paraphrase in ways I can comprehend because I can't pick up the entire thing very well.



Otherwise...
Memorization isn't very rewarding of my effort. :? Thus not very relaxing.

Unless I'm having an obsession to remember and know everything that had happened, and fear of forgetting as if I'm missing out on a collection; which happened once upon a time...

And I cannot be pressured to memorize. It just doesn't work. Even with the things I like or even understand well.


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25 Jul 2024, 5:12 am

If it's just one thing to memorise, it can feel good because it usually works and it reassures me that my memory faculty isn't as dead as I tend to think it is. I suppose it's relaxing to have a fear allayed like that. Generally I write things down rather than memorise them because as a gut reaction I don't trust my memory.

But if it's a whole box of things to memorise, I usually can't, and trying to do so would only upset me. A lot depends on the content though.

Some things are meaningful or self-evident to me and I can commit them to memory fairly easily, but a lot of things seem random or arbitrary. I tried learning a few French words via a computer program that's supposed to optimise the use of study time, but I found I couldn't retain anything.



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25 Jul 2024, 6:59 am

I find a lot of things stressful. Usually they involve people. Cold hard facts seem friendly by comparison. The kind of things most people wouldn’t argue with (or about). Or the kind of things most people wouldn’t even know.
This is why my career is in computer science.

However even science can be controversial these days. The idea that anything other than extreme individualism or experience could have any kind authority is itself a point of contention. The very idea of “facts” is offensive to some people because it conflicts with autonomy.

But computers don’t have an ego and computers don’t hold a grudge. Yet.

Things I remember tend to fit into the hard sciences, computer science, and some kinds of geek-culture like sci-fi and old tv shows.
I am also interested in God and Christianity.

My memory is spotty.

Sometimes I remember volumes, like season one Commander Data. I tell people my head is like a jar of paperclips - it is hard to get just one thing out.

Some things I have a very hard time remembering, like dates, numbers, spelling and some names. Why my vocabulary should be good and my spelling poor I really have no idea.
I can also memorize a script well enough to preform on stage but will sometimes glitch out (actors call it “going up on your lines”). I once announced the wrong name of a character who had died, swapped the name of one female character with another, at a pivotal spot in a show where I was the lead. Another actor had to ad lib a correction, thus saving the scene, the plot and the life of the poor girl I had accidentally killed.

Brains are tricky things. “A mind is a terrible thing”.


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25 Jul 2024, 9:13 am

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The very idea of “facts” is offensive to some people because it conflicts with autonomy.


:D so true! Haha.



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29 Jul 2024, 6:03 am

Well, I might not count sheep to induce sleep, but I often count other things to get sleepy. i.e. How many dresses I have, and sort them from the oldest to newest in my mind. I usually never finish the task before I fall asleep. Sometimes when I have insomnia I can walk through an entire video game I played (usually adventure games) in my mind before I get sleepy. I guess memory recall is relaxing for me. :)

*I don't have good working memory but it's adequate.


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29 Jul 2024, 2:08 pm

Not memorizing per se. Memorizing the Kreb cycle was no picnic in school.

But drawing upon memory to do math problems in your head can be a thing to help me sleep.

Or not.

Like for example ages ago I designed a game (with dice, hex sheets, and tables) that simulates naval warfare of WWII. So some nights it will drift into my head to use my game to simulate a mano y mano prize fight between two warships that never actually met in battle.

For example...the Japanese heavy cruiser Mogami had ten eight inch guns. BUT it was originally built as a big ass light cruiser with fifteen six inch guns. But just before the outbreak of WWII they up-gunned it to the fewer but bigger ten 8 inch guns...and thats what it had in the actual war. And it kicked allied ass in the early phases of the war in the Pacific.

But what if...Mogami could have fought its own earlier self? In theory the ten bigger guns would about equal the 15 smaller guns of its original self.

So...as you drift off to sleep you could think...according to the rules of my game both ships would have the same thickness of armor of five inches (the measly amount allowed by the Washington Treaty). But Mogami's original 6 inch guns could penetrate that out to range of 12 minus five equals seven thousand yards, or 21 thousand feet...or roughly four and half miles. While latter Mogami's 8 inch guns could penetrate out to sixteen minus five equals eleven thousand yards equals 33 thousand feet equals roughly a little less than seven miles.

So the 1940s Mogami captain would have to get between four and half and seven miles of the enemy to get the advantage of armor penetration (the bonus damage from shells exploding inside the enemy's hull)...while the 1930s Mogami's captain would have to close to closer than four and half miles to even the odds.

Easy if you can have the text in front of you...but if your head is on a pillow at night it can be taxing to keep all of that in your head.

So Earlier's would have to dirty dance with the enemy up close and personal while later's would try to do a more chaste arm's length dance with its enemy.

Snorrrrrrrr...



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29 Jul 2024, 2:26 pm

Memorizing isn't relaxing, but czllecting knowledge makes me happy. I suck at memorizing directions, though.



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30 Jul 2024, 5:57 am

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I designed a game (with dice, hex sheets, and tables) that simulates naval warfare of WWII.

Wow, that's epic aha.



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31 Jul 2024, 11:12 am

No, as a savant I'm often times stuck compulsively memorizing large amounts of stuff to the point where it's deeply disturbing and uncomfortable, but by the same time not memorizing the stuff is arguably just as unpleasant and uncomfortable, and just leads to issues with psychosis. It's very much a pick your poison kind of deals.



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31 Jul 2024, 12:25 pm

Math problems usually make me do the opposite of relaxing. But I'm really good at and enjoy memorizing stories, jokes, songs, information, and some TV shows and movies.



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31 Jul 2024, 12:56 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
No, as a savant I'm often times stuck compulsively memorizing large amounts of stuff to the point where it's deeply disturbing and uncomfortable, but by the same time not memorizing the stuff is arguably just as unpleasant and uncomfortable, and just leads to issues with psychosis. It's very much a pick your poison kind of deals.


Wow! What kind of Savant are you?



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31 Jul 2024, 4:14 pm

__Elijahahahaho wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
No, as a savant I'm often times stuck compulsively memorizing large amounts of stuff to the point where it's deeply disturbing and uncomfortable, but by the same time not memorizing the stuff is arguably just as unpleasant and uncomfortable, and just leads to issues with psychosis. It's very much a pick your poison kind of deals.


Wow! What kind of Savant are you?

I'm towards the bottom of ability as far as I can tell. It's kind of unfortunate that the definition isn't super well defined. But, in general, you're looking at people with an abnormally functioning brain, extraordinary memory and impressive capabilities that are not attributable to intellectual capacity. So, for me, I'm very good with pattern recognition, extension and completion. I don't know if I can still do it, but I used to be able to card count using my own system in real time. (It's not something I've ever bothered to try at a casino on the pay tables because they tend not to take kindly to it, but I was using an official casino website that allowed gambling on other tables)

In my case, between the auDHD and OCD, I've also had brain damage to the left side of my brain that impacted memory formation. I suck at recognizing things as being unique at times, and I'm constantly sorting pretty much everything I come into contact with into categories of some sort. It's what I used for masking as the thing that I'm to doing to day to mask, is often the result of something that happened once previously that I would prefer to avoid.

Somewhere between 0.5% and 10% of autistic people are also savants and IIRC, about half of savants are autistic. But, we're not all so pronounced in ability that we stand out as such, a lot of the time, people think it's because we're smart. I'm smart, but smarts don't really explain some of the stuff I've done over the years.