Can Autistic people become excellent fighters?

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I was wondering since i've never heard of an autistic or aspergic UFC or WWE champion. What's stopping autistics? Motor skills? But can't that be improved?

There are autistic people who are good athletes and don't have motor skills problems.

Especially if boxing is a "special interest," especially if the interest lies in the physical aspects, I can't see why an autistic person cannot be a good fighter.

put a dent my car, and i'll show you.

There have been students at the schools for autism I have attended who are/were athletic wrestlers.

And considering how unconventional and eccentric some professional wrestlers are, I wouldn't be surprised to find out some are on the spectrum.

Connor Gross has HFA , is he an excellent fighter ? , you decide

ooh! I forgot about Serena DeJesus , another tough cookie

I think the only thing stopping someone on the spectrum becoming a champion is the same thing that stops an NT becoming a champion , I don't see autism as a barrier if your naturally a gifted fighter.

Autism is used as a legal defense. As a matter of Murphy's law, violence is always going to be a sensitive subject, for authoritarians, who are supposed to have a monopoly, on the use of force.



In my experience, it has always been seen as criminal, no matter what the reason or the venue.

Before they get tired, mentally, or pressed for time, it's full of simple patterns and predictable rhythm, which could easily be imagined as a sports or dancing diagram, with the footprints, X's and O's. My wording, here, is more complicated than their movements. Those become sloppy.

vs. a fearless person with heightened senses, single-minded focus, and unemotional response to pain. You can deal with people, in the abstract, as though it's just a piece of training equipment.



It signals fear.

They want you to have an entourage and, in some cases, to take some nutritional supplement, for at least a year. It's not a meritocracy, but effectively requires you to be a well-connected spokesmodel, for some consumer product.

If you are direct and to-the-point, it's not considered praiseworthy. They see it as cruelty or bad sportsmanship. A mismatch. They don't want efficiency, leading to closure. NT people want perpetual engagement with no ultimatum. It's their philosophy, in life.

Also, self defense or the defense of property is not appreciated.

Affluent, bubble-trapped people will always think you have gone too far, no matter how careful your touch.

Poorer people, without fail, think you are some kind of protection racket. They will scramble to give you anything, that's not nailed down, but it's not considered a reward. They want to get rid of you.

Authoritarians and wannabes will generally want to use you as a blunt instrument, say, for hazings, debt collection, or as some large, human shield.

It has it's practical uses, but should be considered something thankless and dirty, unless you have reason to believe you will be kept as a show dog.

I think, there's a mental disconnect, about what is fighting. They are telling you to pummel someones' braincase, but it's just a contest. When they practice, on something like a coconut, that's not a contest. You can deal with it, mentally, as when someone discusses harvesting an animal. They will say, not all the way.

There is no appropriate amount of force, ever. No matter how great or how small.

I get an adrenalin rush in social situations where most pepole wouldn't this in turn makes me want to exercise which would be useful if I did do something like MMA.
I avoid confrontation but i've become quite well built and not perfectly coordinated but not uncoordinated and i was and probly still am quite a fast 11 second 100m time in trainers when i attend a harriers training session in uni though I was full of adrenalin at the time.
Im also pretty calm and composed when it comes to things like heights or more recently gokart racing. I did play or at least train impact team sports in uni american football and rugby for me it was the risk of getting asked an awkward question/awkward social situation that scared me as opposed to the risk of getting hurt. The social situations and awkward questions are what stopped me playing rugby in six form and physically I was relatively good at that unprofessional level I also knew that then sports where a way for me to get positive attention / admiration for admittedly superficial reasons and make me feel included.
In high school it started obsessively as a way to be able to defend my self from bullying and I was asking my parents to let me take supplements and to get weights and was pretty obsessive about exercise. I was lifting about 100 kg on the bench i got by the end of high school about 1.5 times my body weight and i gave my self stretch marks as a result as well. The physicality i built up then got noticed when I had to do games and i got persuaded to compete in the athletics competition between schools in 3 events and got medals in 2 being good at sports helped massively with my confidence.
There was also a girl at the same high school that was very good at football that has now played football for England who I think is also on the spectrum and one other person i played rugby with in uni who i think was as well.

As mentioned, having high cortisol and adrenaline levels can certainly allow the individual to have more perceived strength.
Have also read that those on the spectrum have an active gene called the ''warrior gene''.. cant remember off hand what that gene is about as only remembered in a passing article, might be worth having a look at..
But listening to many parents and my own experience can allow that possibility. So yes i think people on the spectrum could become excellent fighters. But personally it is an area i avoid at all costs... Not my thing.

Twelve-year-old Ethan Fineshriber is a "world champion martial artist with a developmental disability" ( http://fox13now.com/2016/07/11/sandy-bo ... mpetition/ ).

I don't see why not. There are probably at least a few undiagnosed autistic pro autistic fighters. We have the ability to perseverate on our special interest which is a big advantage for gaining professional level skills.

Many years ago I thought I enjoyed watching boxing, then I got hurt at a local gym and lost my "mental disconnect". Today I will neither watch nor participate in any kind of contact sport whatsoever, but it would be great to see an Aspie in a competition such as Ninja Warrior!

Even with the high-contact stuff, there is always some level of trying not to hurt the person.

In traditions of martial valor, you were supposed to use the least amount of force necessary, but this is highly-subjective, to the point that it will never satisfy.

Grace is in the eye of the person offering it.

Regarding having positive emotions for an opponent, there are many fighters who are excellent examples of humanity despite having talents concerning physical brutality. You can care deeply about your fellow competitor outside of the duel, often even during it when you know you're in complete control of things and take it easy. The referee and corners are responsible for looking out for your opponent, you need to focus on your side. When it comes to inflicting as much punishment as necessary to get your hand raised and hopefully render the other guy beyond a threat, it's nothing personal, it's you or him/her and if the other person knows this, then you know this. If you have a problem translating it, you shouldn't be near a ring, that's not what you sign up for but neither do you sign up to be an executioner firing at a disarmed foe.

People talk about avoiding confrontation, but fighting is not necessarily subjective or emotional.

You can get under a jacked up truck, or climb a ladder, which are technically, risky behaviors. It's not like an argument.

People who keep dangerous animals, operate their reflexes like a machine. It doesn't chomp or envenomate you out of hatred, per se.

These are things that can be done, with emotional detachment.

It' still not liked. This is a dirty business, like some moral vice. All of the people, around you, are there for emotional reasons. They are sadists, and masochists, and want to judge you, morally. It's not pragmatic, for them.