possible asperger in 'madeleine' case ?

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15 Sep 2007, 11:29 am

So, ...
Supposedly Kate's diary says ...

"The periodic records that Kate realized allude to small help that it was receiving from his husband and reveal that his daughter was "exhausting" her
A portuguese newspaper affirms that Kate McCann " complains frequently about his children and speaks Madeleine's as a girl whose excess of vitality exhausts hem ".
The intimate confessions of Maddie's mother demonstrate the worry of her for the care of his "rebellious" children whom it qualifies of " hysterics " .

All together is strange for a mother "to complain about her children on a diary and to call them 'hysterics'. And remark Madeleine wa exhausting her and have excess of vitality. 'Traits' in the other part quite common in an 'asperger' girl, for an example ...

"the Service of Forensic Science of Birmingham (English center), which has gone
to end analysis of ADN by request of the Police lusa, has discovered, to turn
of the find of Madeleine's hair, that the minor
it was sedated regularly .. " An special child maybe (asperger) who is misunderstood by her own parents , and put on pills ? .. what an strange coincidence with some parents with asperger, 'auties' childs ...

All the above references are supposedly based on Kate's personal diary, ..



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15 Sep 2007, 12:26 pm

I am so tempted to post a distasteful joke about McCann.



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15 Sep 2007, 12:29 pm

I believe the Portugese government, police, hotel management botched that kidnapping case and now, they are searching for
someone to blame. After all, wasn't Jon Benet Ramsey's parents also blamed for her disappearance and the Boulder Police Department really botched that investigation. What I would like to know is what is happening to our little girls? Thank God, for the
return of Elizabeth Smart...so remarkable is that case and to be back with her parents after her disappearance for NINE MONTHS.



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15 Sep 2007, 12:44 pm

It seems the parent's PR efforts still work for some.

Is it so surprising that it's the parents who are under investigation? Most child-abuse is committed by relatives and not strangers. The parents put a bit too much effort in steering public attention away from them.



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16 Sep 2007, 2:53 am

I have no idea what is going on on that case there is always something different about everytime it comes on the news it is a swings and roundabouts scenario.



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16 Sep 2007, 3:10 am

There seems to be no question that she was regularly sedated, though it may just have been so that she'd fall asleep so that the parents could go out and enjoy themselves.

I would guess the most likely cause of death was she suffocated in bed; being too drugged to turn herself over. Either that, or she took too many pills, maybe after the parents were gone.

There's also a thread on this subject in the News/Current Events section.



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16 Sep 2007, 4:22 am

It's not normal to sedate children so that one can go out. Such behaviour reveals a disturbed sense of priorities, she has no sense of responsibility for her children and basically a total disrespect for others in favor of total commitment to her own needs.

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... or she took too many pills, maybe after the parents were gone ...


Blaming the victim? Or perhaps that 4 year old had become so addicted to these pills that she, sleepy and sedated, searched, found and swallowed some more. Or is there perhaps some difficulty in accepting the fact that some parents treat their children very badly?



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16 Sep 2007, 4:35 am

There is something about this case, in particular the attitude of Mrs McCann, which is so wrong. A couple of times I've seen mothers at the local park who suddenly can't find their kid and they go crazy with worry, she isn't like that. Maybe MRS McCann is an aspie?

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16 Sep 2007, 4:58 am

Nah, more like an NPD or HPD.



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16 Sep 2007, 5:47 am

Lets not get me onto this one I've been arguing with silly people on the Daily Mirror forums about this, its like the cesspit of humanity down there. Someone likened Gerry McGann to Temple Grandin, err just a minute this couple were very social beings I can't see Dr Grandin relaxing with a crew of mates and a glass of Portugese Rose. I think Kate McGann has an odd demeanour, very numb looking, in shock and possibly on strong medication. Gerry's just a composed, calm, logical cardiologist. I'm pretty sure if the chilld had an autistic spectrum disorder it would have come out by now, the hacks would have found out from relatives and acquaintances that the child had special help, or meltdowns or something. I just hope they can resolve this case soon its so frustrating.



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16 Sep 2007, 6:21 am

Q. What's the difference between Pope John Paul II and Madeleine McCann?
A. The Pope died a virgin.

Q. What's dead and not newsworthy?
A. Madeleine McCann.

t(-_-t) woot, go me.



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16 Sep 2007, 11:22 am

Those 'jokes' before were very distasteful and, most importantly, not funny at all.

I obviously do not know any more than anyone what happened to that little girl, but it seems to me that regardless of what happened, leaving toddlers alone in a hotel in a foreign country to go out and eat should be a crime. And if it is true that were sedating her, then they definitely should be locked up and not allowed to have their younger kids.

It is actually quite common for mothers to resent their children in a similar way (the diary, not the sedating and possibly killing), especially older women who had a career before having children. That woman went from being a doctor to having 3 children in about 2 years. That's a huge change and many women do not handle it too well.



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16 Sep 2007, 11:45 am

How many "so-and-so media celebrity, a possible aspie?" threads have been made since WP was up? And some of you guys wonder if AS is becoming a trendy diagnosis like ADHD...



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16 Sep 2007, 12:14 pm

FleaCircus wrote:
Q. What's ...


There are limits, even for you. If you can't judge when a 'joke' is too distasteful, just don't make jokes anymore, ever.



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16 Sep 2007, 4:51 pm

Zwerfbeertje wrote:
FleaCircus wrote:
Q. What's ...


There are limits, even for you. If you can't judge when a 'joke' is too distasteful, just don't make jokes anymore, ever.


I agree. There is no excuse for such nasty, distasteful jokes, it is not a topic to joke about, sexual abuse of children, especially as your previous post, the jokester(not), made it clear you were aware they are distasteful.


As for myself, I already posted a thread in news and current events, or whatever it is called, about this case as there is something so deeply wrong about all of it. I am not sure I would consider Madeleine to have been AS, tho it is possible I suppose that she had ADD. I find the mother cold, and I find the fact she was flying around the place only days/weeks after the so-called abduction, highly suspicious. I have never heard of a case where parents have created so much publicity and hype over their missing child. That in itself is suspicious, as is the fact that Madeleine was asleep between the twins, yet neither woke during all the commotion, and indeed, the supposed abduction... if nothing else, that suggests sedation to me. But AS? There is not enough evidence for that... a few snippets from a frustrated mother's diary does not evidence make.



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17 Sep 2007, 1:09 am

Zwerfbeertje wrote:
It's not normal to sedate children so that one can go out. Such behaviour reveals a disturbed sense of priorities, she has no sense of responsibility for her children and basically a total disrespect for others in favor of total commitment to her own needs....


Exactly, there's your clue to the parent's selfishness, and it makes it easier to believe that they would try and conceal her death.

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Blaming the victim? Or perhaps that 4 year old had become so addicted to these pills that she, sleepy and sedated, searched, found and swallowed some more. Or is there perhaps some difficulty in accepting the fact that some parents treat their children very badly?


No, many young children will eat pills or other poisonous substances because they don't know the risks. Maybe she was just hungry and there was nothing else around.