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25 Sep 2007, 2:04 am

Anyone else ever been asked this too?

I have been asked this a lot in my late teens and I always found it difficult to answer because I didn't know how to describe what it's like having it because I'm me. It'll be like me asking you "What is it like to be you?" So I always answered "I don't know."
Then I started to ask them back "What is it like not having it?" and they would find it difficult to answer it and they would see my point in why it's hard for me to answer.


Has that question always been difficult for you to answer too?


I had to think of how to answer it so I started telling them you get bullied and picked on by other kids, you get treated differently by your school and I tell them how I was treated differently and kids don't want you around, your friends won't let you in their house, they never want to play with you and only time they do is when they come to your house to play. People get mad for no reason, people don't make any sense, you can't tell when someone is being sarcastic, when someone is teasing, joking, kidding. You don't like changes or surprises, you have obsessions, you can absorb facts easily and remember people's birthdays. I tell them about my perspective in the world assuming that's what's it like to have AS.



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25 Sep 2007, 2:06 am

I have never been asked this question. I'm not even sure how I would even answer it.



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25 Sep 2007, 2:06 am

Right, a bit difficult to describe...like being asked, "What's it like being colorblind?"


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25 Sep 2007, 2:18 am

What first comes to mind... I'd say it's rather like what Tom Hanks character goes through in the movie Cast Away. To be stuck on a deserted island for years & years only to suddenly be thrust back into society. You remember enough of what it's like to survive, but you don't quite fit.



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25 Sep 2007, 2:42 am

likedcalico wrote:
Anyone else ever been asked this too?

I have been asked this a lot in my late teens and I always found it difficult to answer because I didn't know how to describe what it's like having it because I'm me. It'll be like me asking you "What is it like to be you?" So I always answered "I don't know."
Then I started to ask them back "What is it like not having it?" and they would find it difficult to answer it and they would see my point in why it's hard for me to answer.


Has that question always been difficult for you to answer too?


I had to think of how to answer it so I started telling them you get bullied and picked on by other kids, you get treated differently by your school and I tell them how I was treated differently and kids don't want you around, your friends won't let you in their house, they never want to play with you and only time they do is when they come to your house to play. People get mad for no reason, people don't make any sense, you can't tell when someone is being sarcastic, when someone is teasing, joking, kidding. You don't like changes or surprises, you have obsessions, you can absorb facts easily and remember people's birthdays. I tell them about my perspective in the world assuming that's what's it like to have AS.


Someone asked me this and I said "I don't know" and they said "how can you not know?", and then I said "Well what is it like to beable to read faces?". and they said "I don't know". :lol:

I still haven't figured out a response as I don't know how to explain it.


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25 Sep 2007, 2:44 am

likedcalico wrote:
Anyone else ever been asked this too?

I have been asked this a lot in my late teens and I always found it difficult to answer because I didn't know how to describe what it's like having it because I'm me. It'll be like me asking you "What is it like to be you?" So I always answered "I don't know."
Then I started to ask them back "What is it like not having it?" and they would find it difficult to answer it and they would see my point in why it's hard for me to answer.


Has that question always been difficult for you to answer too?


I had to think of how to answer it so I started telling them you get bullied and picked on by other kids, you get treated differently by your school and I tell them how I was treated differently and kids don't want you around, your friends won't let you in their house, they never want to play with you and only time they do is when they come to your house to play. People get mad for no reason, people don't make any sense, you can't tell when someone is being sarcastic, when someone is teasing, joking, kidding. You don't like changes or surprises, you have obsessions, you can absorb facts easily and remember people's birthdays. I tell them about my perspective in the world assuming that's what's it like to have AS.


Someone asked me this and I said "I don't know" and they said "how can you not know?", and then I said "Well what is it like to beable to read faces?". and they said "I don't know". :lol:

I still haven't figured out a response as I don't know how to explain it.


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25 Sep 2007, 4:46 am

I have been asked this a few times, and just say it means I have problems socially.
Someone at work did a course on Autism, they put a blindfold on her and earmuffs on her, and told her that is what it feels like to have Autism. :?
I would have said that is what it feels like to be blind and have partial hearing, not having Autism.



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25 Sep 2007, 6:49 am

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25 Sep 2007, 7:23 am

Grim wrote:
I have been asked this a few times, and just say it means I have problems socially.
Someone at work did a course on Autism, they put a blindfold on her and earmuffs on her, and told her that is what it feels like to have Autism. :?
I would have said that is what it feels like to be blind and have partial hearing, not having Autism.


Not sure about the earmuffs but I suppose the idea behind the blindfold could be getting people to talk to people/try and have normal conversations while one of them is blindfolded so they could see how difficult it is when you can't read body language/facial expressions and can't make eye contact



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25 Sep 2007, 7:32 am

That is such a stupid question those people who ask you must be really thick people like that really do annoy me the truth is you don't feel a thing I would say I'm just like any other human being.



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25 Sep 2007, 7:59 am

OK - here is a (true) story about how it feels for me (although I am not officially diagnosed I am pretty sure I have AS!):

"I am at a meeting of my professional association. I know a few people but not very well. I arrived just as the meeting proper was starting in order to avoid the half-an-hour's "Coffee" beforehand, i.e. standing around and chatting.

It is now lunchtime and I have stood in the queue & got my food. I have it piled on my plate & a glass of orange juice in my hand & feel really clumsy & awkward. I want to put the glass down but there isn't anywhere. I look around and it seems like every single person but me is talking to someone, usually in groups of about 3 or 4.

I just want to go somewhere private to sit down & eat, but that would look odd. So I desperately look for someone I know. I see two of them talking together so I go over, but they either don't see me or ignore me, so I just stand there looking over their shoulders. Eventually one of them moves off so I start talking to the other person. They talk to me at first but all the while their eyes are scanning the room.

Then a more important senior person comes over and the person I am talking to says "excuse me" in the middle of the conversation and turns away to talk to them, excluding me & leaving me just standing there on my own.

I am very very self-conscious & aware that my posture is all wrong, but not what to do about it.

So I go and stand by the buffet table, where at least I can put my glass down, and just stand there & eat, so it at least looks like I am doing something.

I am relieved when the afternoon session starts."

OK - so then NT's, how would this story play different for you? How would you be able to start/join in conversations, get & keep people's attention, and do the whole "networking" thing (which is clearly what this situation is, but I am just useless at it!)

What "cues" am I missing out on here, both giving & receiving? I know there must be some, but what?



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25 Sep 2007, 8:36 am

On another autie forum I post on, there is an ongoing discussion about the topic "where would you have been now if you didn't have autism". I always answer that I don't know, since I can't tell what it is tha tmakes me autistic, so how can I tell what it would be like not to be autistic? Like, I'm me and I know that I have the label of autism and this explains some of my characteristics, but I can't separate it from who I am.



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25 Sep 2007, 8:50 am

Quote:
OK - here is a (true) story about how it feels for me (although I am not officially diagnosed I am pretty sure I have AS!):

"I am at a meeting of my professional association. I know a few people but not very well. I arrived just as the meeting proper was starting in order to avoid the half-an-hour's "Coffee" beforehand, i.e. standing around and chatting.

It is now lunchtime and I have stood in the queue & got my food. I have it piled on my plate & a glass of orange juice in my hand & feel really clumsy & awkward. I want to put the glass down but there isn't anywhere. I look around and it seems like every single person but me is talking to someone, usually in groups of about 3 or 4.

I just want to go somewhere private to sit down & eat, but that would look odd. So I desperately look for someone I know. I see two of them talking together so I go over, but they either don't see me or ignore me, so I just stand there looking over their shoulders. Eventually one of them moves off so I start talking to the other person. They talk to me at first but all the while their eyes are scanning the room.

Then a more important senior person comes over and the person I am talking to says "excuse me" in the middle of the conversation and turns away to talk to them, excluding me & leaving me just standing there on my own.

I am very very self-conscious & aware that my posture is all wrong, but not what to do about it.

So I go and stand by the buffet table, where at least I can put my glass down, and just stand there & eat, so it at least looks like I am doing something.

I am relieved when the afternoon session starts."

OK - so then NT's, how would this story play different for you? How would you be able to start/join in conversations, get & keep people's attention, and do the whole "networking" thing (which is clearly what this situation is, but I am just useless at it!)

What "cues" am I missing out on here, both giving & receiving? I know there must be some, but what?
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It's a always awkward to be holding foood and looking for a place to sit.

I woudl have found a table with an extra seat and asked if I could join them, then I woudl have gone ot get my food. If I had my food, I would look for a seat and ask if I could join. I woudl understand that they might not socialize with me.

Also, if I wanted to sit and eat in some private place, I would just do it not worrying about "how" it would look.

These are very small things in the NT world.



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25 Sep 2007, 9:20 am

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On another autie forum I post on, there is an ongoing discussion about the topic "where would you have been now if you didn't have autism". I always answer that I don't know, since I can't tell what it is tha tmakes me autistic, so how can I tell what it would be like not to be autistic? Like, I'm me and I know that I have the label of autism and this explains some of my characteristics, but I can't separate it from who I am.

Agree that it's not wholly answerable...I wrote an essay, attempting to explain but...
Asking this question about specific aspects of one single individual (as if I were internally separable) confuses & confounds my sense of psychological integrity. Getting any label is like telling me I'm "2 + 3", I'd grown up called "4 + 1", and I know me = "5", no matter how one reaches identical sum.
One one hand, ASD diagnosis redefined understanding (via classification & measurement) of me, on other hand I was same person the day before my dx that I was the day after. It's not like I found out a had terminal and previously unsuspected disease (dx didn't split my life into 'before' & 'after' getting the news). Have always been myself, know no other version of me I could be or could've become. As far as I know, it's not like I was previously "normal", one day had an accident, and since then have valiantly conquered obvious (recognized) impairment which limited my expression or communication.
Had various official & unofficial (speculative) diagnoses throughout life-the phrases autism spectrum condition/disorder, high-functioning autism (as opposed to only variant I had heard of, that which gets referred to as low-functioning), & Asperger's were unknown to me until 2004. I was 31 yrs. old-by then, my self-image & identification with various subcultures, roles, or population demographics had formed in absence of this sudden new label. That I'm a "person with this dx" is such recent arrival to conscious awareness of my personality (sense of self) that it hasn't yet been absorbed.


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25 Sep 2007, 12:04 pm

Hmmm... I can't recall anyone ever bothering to ask...


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25 Sep 2007, 12:05 pm

I would tell them it's fantastic.