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myczarina
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27 Sep 2007, 5:13 pm

I am wondering if any one else experiences bazaar irrational thinking when something sudden happens, situations change, or something doesn't happen the way you thought (i.e. someone doesn't react how you think they should).

I have intense bouts of anxiety over little things. Such as, I email someone and they don't respond right away or in the way I thought they would, I go somewhere and things aren't as I anticipated, etc.

Presently, I just had a panic attack over changing my email address! When I called and changed it I just didn't realize it would be instantaneous, I thought I would have a couple of days for processing or something. So when it went right through I freaked out 'cause I realized if anyone tried to email my old address then, where would the email go? Would anyone be able to get in touch with me? What if someone emailed in the exact moment I switched over my account? I sent an email out to all of my contacts to let them know, but the what ifs kept eating away at my mind.

I can't really understand the illogic of what I am feeling, and being an aspie I really don't know why I tend to get so irrational over such little things. Aren't we suppose to be logical thinkers?

The thing is, I do recognize that my anxieties are extreme and irrational, so when I stop to reason things out I can calm myself down and think more clearly.

On top of being an aspie, I do have intense Social Phobia and (obvious) anxiety issues.

Is anyone else feeling this way?

Perhaps it is because I am a girl...



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27 Sep 2007, 5:39 pm

Although many Aspies are very logical, there are others who aren't. I think we do vary a lot.

What I have noticed though, and it crops up in a lot of posts here is that generally Aspies don't like change and sometimes find it hard to cope with. Plus of course we have the usual stress of having to live in the world of NTs, how to behave with them, how to understand them...I think that can up the anxiety level a few stages by itself.

That email thing you describe, the 'what if', that sounds very logical really and Aspie in that you have thought through all the possibilities of what might happen. I would do exactly the same :)

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The thing is, I do recognize that my anxieties are extreme and irrational, so when I stop to reason things out I can calm myself down and think more clearly.

It is great that you have found a way to do this. Maybe your Aspie logic is coming to your aid. :)

I too find the social stuff hard, and I'm not good at it. Some days are better than others.
I hope you find WP helpful, myczarina. It has certainly helped me a lot being here, to know that others experience the same difficulties, and find a way around them.

I like your avatar btw.



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27 Sep 2007, 5:48 pm

I too get upset when I email somebody and they don't email me back right away, It can bother me for days. I tend to get so irrational to over little things. I don't know why either, I have HFA, I don't know if that changes things but I over irrationalize over everything. I haven't changed my email address since I was 12, or my screen since I was 11 haha.


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27 Sep 2007, 5:52 pm

Being female MY make it worse, but I have the same sort of concerns, etc...

BTW NOBODY can tell you when a domain name change will affect you! And there is no way to determine/test it. YEAH, I know, it sounds stupid, but HERE is the truth!

1. On your server, it is instantaneous.
2. The local enterprise will LIKELY be instantaneous.
3. networks that haven't recently used the domain may be instantaneous.
4. OTHER servers could take DAYS to change!

This is due to the cascaded updates of DNS records. When your system needs an address, it goes to a local DNS server. THAT server will only check another after so many seconds. The server it checks might not truly be authoritative. It does that to provide redundancy, and make things faster. The MAIN COM/NET DNS registry WORLDWIDE is controlled by only 13 servers. IMAGINE if everyone hit them at once!

SO, ironically, the people that are most likely to contact you with the old email are the ones most likely to have it hit the same system. The question is what that local system will do with that email.



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27 Sep 2007, 6:06 pm

I have irrational reactions sometimes in stressful situations. I have anxiety problems, too. My emotions spike faster than I can catch them, although I've gotten better at catching them over the years (I'm 50). I don't know if you being a woman is a factor. I've known women who cried over a broken nail and women who were clear and focused at a car wreck.


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27 Sep 2007, 7:52 pm

There's a great book called "Parenting a Child With Asperger Syndrome: 200 Tips and Strategies" by Brenda Boyd, and in it she calls this anxiety "Aspie anxiety". To everyone else in the world a certain thing would be nothing to worry about, but to an Aspie it's a very real thing to worry about. It's just part of being as Aspie, I guess.



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27 Sep 2007, 8:12 pm

MasonJar wrote:
There's a great book called "Parenting a Child With Asperger Syndrome: 200 Tips and Strategies" by Brenda Boyd, and in it she calls this anxiety "Aspie anxiety". To everyone else in the world a certain thing would be nothing to worry about, but to an Aspie it's a very real thing to worry about. It's just part of being as Aspie, I guess.


Well, a lot of times people equate apples with oranges. But they often say I overreact, and marvel at how I may be so concerned with what THEY think are simple issues. GUESS WHAT! I am USUALLY proven right.



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27 Sep 2007, 8:46 pm

When something happens thats too good to be true I usually get irrational and end up ruining it. Also I can get kind of irrational about my fears/phobias sometimes.


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27 Sep 2007, 8:54 pm

I sent my bf's dad a text message yesterday saying "call me when you get a chance." he didnt' call back so I'm fighting thinking he doesn't like me, I made things awkward by an email I sent him this past weekend (and which he responded to with "thank you for the kind words") etc.

And the thing is, I know that if I actually called him, he'd either answer or call me back in five minutes, even if he was working. I just didn't want to do that because the issue at hand wasn't important, and I'd been speaking to him pretty much daily for a while.



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28 Sep 2007, 3:35 am

Triangular_Trees wrote:
I sent my bf's dad a text message yesterday saying "call me when you get a chance." he didnt' call back so I'm fighting thinking he doesn't like me, I made things awkward by an email I sent him this past weekend (and which he responded to with "thank you for the kind words") etc.

And the thing is, I know that if I actually called him, he'd either answer or call me back in five minutes, even if he was working. I just didn't want to do that because the issue at hand wasn't important, and I'd been speaking to him pretty much daily for a while.


Oh my goodness... I have done this more times than I can count! I thought it was just me!

I feel so much better knowing this is an aspie thing. Strange how knowing many other people are going through similar anxieties as you somehow makes you not feel so bad?

Thank you all.



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28 Sep 2007, 9:25 am

This touches a nerve for me. I am usually an intelligent, logical person, but as I start to meltdown I find myself having totally illogical, paranoid thoughts that at that moment I completely believe in. I become convinced that whatever little thing it is that has set me off is going to destroy everything good in my life.



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28 Sep 2007, 11:01 am

Yes I can be prone to all kinds of negative and irrational thinking..i will draw stuff to the worst possible conclusipns etc....

and then I snap out of it.....usually..... :?



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28 Sep 2007, 12:50 pm

soemtimes my mind becomes flooded with a voice saying thoughts that make no sense but that doesn't seem like what you are talking about



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28 Sep 2007, 1:04 pm

think it has to do with emotions...

im very irrational with emotions... which is what i have learned caused a lot of issues in my past relationships... i would often feel valid for being irriated/offended/hurt by all these things my partner did (and i thought was intentional!)...

now i see it was because it's me! im the weirdo in the equation... and i still feel that my reations to things are valid... but i know have to try and contain all my lil irrational responses to things and try to deduce whether there's any other possible motive or line of thought for why people say/do things... or how im supposed to react to something.

cause ive only been in longterm relationships (mostly)... and after you've gone through a couple few bouts of fighting and working with each other on that kind of emotional stress level... i would often come out feeling wrong or inappropriate (misunderstood) and therefore disregarded for how i feel... or i am told that they (my bfs) feel like they are walking on eggshells cause all they never know what's gonna upset me...

and this sort of thing is why i dont necessarily agree with theory of mind...

i often am thinking about what others are thinking and try to react accordingly... i just suck at it...

and therefore... i am a heartless moody biatch....


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28 Sep 2007, 1:56 pm

I used to randomly enter violent outbursts for no reason at all. Often, I see it as another person isn't doing what I predicted they would do... Nowadays, I know that I shouldn't try to predict other humans, and so therefore don't. Because of this, the only times I am irrational is when my computer starts acting weird. A computer, unlike a human, is supposed to be completely predictable, so I should expect everything on a certian schedule that, when disrupted, can cause major anxiety attacks



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28 Sep 2007, 5:59 pm

only if im forced to do something. otherwise i think im a pretty rational kindof guy :)


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