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Graelwyn
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25 Sep 2007, 10:32 pm

To parental criticism and pressure?
My mother could be qute harsh and controlling in ways and would have very high expectations and would ignore me at times when I didnt do as she wanted.

I would react to such things by throwing things, including a full plate of food once, shouting 'I hate you', smashing my ornaments or things she had given me and slamming doors.

What about if your parent wanted to clean your room and moved things etc?

I hated that, made me very angry, as did the vaccuum cleaner.



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25 Sep 2007, 10:40 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
To parental criticism and pressure?
My mother could be qute harsh and controlling in ways and would have very high expectations and would ignore me at times when I didnt do as she wanted.

I would react to such things by throwing things, including a full plate of food once, shouting 'I hate you', smashing my ornaments or things she had given me and slamming doors.

What about if your parent wanted to clean your room and moved things etc?

I hated that, made me very angry, as did the vaccuum cleaner.


When I was a child if my mother wanted to clean my room I would get very angry and tell her that she is putting things in the "wrong" order. If she changed my dovet cover on my bed I would refuse to sleep in my bed until she changed it back.
My worst hate of all...and still do hate it, furniture moving. I have always hated it. When I was a child I would try and move everything back while saying "it's not right, it's not right, it's not right" over and over again for some reason.


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25 Sep 2007, 10:44 pm

Can't recall a time where any parents cleaned my room. I always did it.



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25 Sep 2007, 10:51 pm

My mother was also (and sometimes still is) harsh and controlling. As a child, I kept quiet and did my very best to avoid conflict until I could get out of that environment which I did at age 17.

Now, I don't tolerate inapproprate attempts to control me. She sent me a very nasty email a few days ago. My response included, "It is OK for you to make a single specific suggestion here and there. It is NOT acceptable for you to bombard me with a list of demands."

One problem is that she's trying to tell me that I'm very depressed and in a negative pit and need a shrink and that she'll pay for it. Her email included, "We will get you help and you must accept it."

Well..................

1. I am neither depressed OR negative.

2. I have zero desire to waste a minute of my precious time talking to any shrink.

3. How the heck would talking to a shrink be of ANY possible benefit to someone like me who doesn't interact well with people and can't communicate well verbally or through body language or facial expressions??? :roll:



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25 Sep 2007, 10:55 pm

Boutique wrote:
My mother was also (and sometimes still is) harsh and controlling. As a child, I kept quiet and did my very best to avoid conflict until I could get out of that environment which I did at age 17.

Now, I don't tolerate inapproprate attempts to control me. She sent me a very nasty email a few days ago. My response included, "It is OK for you to make a single specific suggestion here and there. It is NOT acceptable for you to bombard me with a list of demands."

One problem is that she's trying to tell me that I'm very depressed and in a negative pit and need a shrink and that she'll pay for it. Her email included, "We will get you help and you must accept it."

Well..................

1. I am neither depressed OR negative.

2. I have zero desire to waste a minute of my precious time talking to any shrink.

3. How the heck would talking to a shrink be of ANY possible benefit to someone like me who doesn't interact well with people and can't communicate well verbally or through body language or facial expressions??? :roll:


Did your mom ever send you to the shrink to get you diagnosed as what she wanted you to be disgnosed with?



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25 Sep 2007, 10:57 pm

Wow Brittany2907,

I CAN RELATE! My mother moved things wrong also. That is the main reason I am not organised anymore.

I HATED restrictions, some lack of trust, etc... I bought a special torch once, and my mother wanted me to get rid of it. I would go into more detail, but it is too specific.



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25 Sep 2007, 10:58 pm

My mom (who was historically diagnosed as an aspie) got my diagnosis...

She's also one of the most rational women I know... if she wants me to do something, we ge tinto this logic argument and whoever has the strongest points wins... While it's usually her that wins these arguments (owing to my logic being "I didnt want to clean my room"), it is still important to point out that it was never the standard NT "I win because I'm the woman" argument...



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25 Sep 2007, 11:18 pm

Kitsy wrote:
Did your mom ever send you to the shrink to get you diagnosed as what she wanted you to be disgnosed with?


No, but I had to go through a lot of family counseling because of her mental illness and my brother's ADHD (I think he has AS, but nobody ever recognized it). The counseling was unbearable for me. I was grilled many times by counselors asking me what I was doing wrong to contribute to the family's dysfunction, and I never had an answer. My brother and mom would tell the counselors that it wasn't my fault, that I really tried so hard to do all of the right things, but the counselors kept grilling me.



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25 Sep 2007, 11:25 pm

Kitsy wrote:
Boutique wrote:
My mother was also (and sometimes still is) harsh and controlling. As a child, I kept quiet and did my very best to avoid conflict until I could get out of that environment which I did at age 17.

Now, I don't tolerate inapproprate attempts to control me. She sent me a very nasty email a few days ago. My response included, "It is OK for you to make a single specific suggestion here and there. It is NOT acceptable for you to bombard me with a list of demands."

One problem is that she's trying to tell me that I'm very depressed and in a negative pit and need a shrink and that she'll pay for it. Her email included, "We will get you help and you must accept it."

Well..................

1. I am neither depressed OR negative.

2. I have zero desire to waste a minute of my precious time talking to any shrink.

3. How the heck would talking to a shrink be of ANY possible benefit to someone like me who doesn't interact well with people and can't communicate well verbally or through body language or facial expressions??? :roll:


Did your mom ever send you to the shrink to get you diagnosed as what she wanted you to be disgnosed with?


My mother took me to many shrinks trying to get the diagnosis she wanted (depression) and it never worked out. When "autistic traits" were mentioned, I was dragged out of there so fast it wasn't even funny.

I'm also quite adverse to any attempts to control me. Nothing will make me lock up faster. I left home at 16 and life has slowly improved ever since.

As for 1, 2 and 3...agreed.


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25 Sep 2007, 11:29 pm

Boutique wrote:
Kitsy wrote:
Did your mom ever send you to the shrink to get you diagnosed as what she wanted you to be disgnosed with?


No, but I had to go through a lot of family counseling because of her mental illness and my brother's ADHD (I think he has AS, but nobody ever recognized it). The counseling was unbearable for me. I was grilled many times by counselors asking me what I was doing wrong to contribute to the family's dysfunction, and I never had an answer. My brother and mom would tell the counselors that it wasn't my fault, that I really tried so hard to do all of the right things, but the counselors kept grilling me.


I'm sorry you had to go through that. Were you ever diagnosed with anything? (sorry im new here)



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25 Sep 2007, 11:31 pm

siuan wrote:
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Boutique wrote:
My mother was also (and sometimes still is) harsh and controlling. As a child, I kept quiet and did my very best to avoid conflict until I could get out of that environment which I did at age 17.

Now, I don't tolerate inapproprate attempts to control me. She sent me a very nasty email a few days ago. My response included, "It is OK for you to make a single specific suggestion here and there. It is NOT acceptable for you to bombard me with a list of demands."

One problem is that she's trying to tell me that I'm very depressed and in a negative pit and need a shrink and that she'll pay for it. Her email included, "We will get you help and you must accept it."

Well..................

1. I am neither depressed OR negative.

2. I have zero desire to waste a minute of my precious time talking to any shrink.

3. How the heck would talking to a shrink be of ANY possible benefit to someone like me who doesn't interact well with people and can't communicate well verbally or through body language or facial expressions??? :roll:


Did your mom ever send you to the shrink to get you diagnosed as what she wanted you to be disgnosed with?


My mother took me to many shrinks trying to get the diagnosis she wanted (depression) and it never worked out. When "autistic traits" were mentioned, I was dragged out of there so fast it wasn't even funny.

I'm also quite adverse to any attempts to control me. Nothing will make me lock up faster. I left home at 16 and life has slowly improved ever since.

As for 1, 2 and 3...agreed.


I left home at early age too. My mom found my quirks embarassing and my wardrobe embarassing due to the consistant all black wardrobe. She used to try to get me diagnosed as other things but the shrinks finally told her to quit sending me there. Now that I'm an adult, I don't know where to go.



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25 Sep 2007, 11:49 pm

Kitsy wrote:
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Were you ever diagnosed with anything? (sorry im new here)


I have a few diagnosed physical problems, but nothing neurological has been diagnosed yet. I know that I have Asperger's and someday will probably get it diagnosed. Right now there just seems to be about a thousand other things in life that need more attention than having someone tell me what I already know. :)

I don't think that anyone ever recognized my AS when I was a child because I had no obvious behavior problems other than poor organization, have a very high IQ, got great grades, was in all of the gifted programs and advanced placement classes, was reading at age 3, and excelled with music, math, and computers. It would have taken someone very familiar with AS to see the signs, and I just didn't spend very much time interacting with people.



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26 Sep 2007, 12:06 am

The issue was never forced with me (thankfully), I did what I wanted, i.e., stay home from school when I wanted, no pressure to be who they wanted me to be, rather than who I am and what I want to be.

If I had the "usual" parents, rather than one who's completely understanding and empathetic, the other who was apathetic; I would have been picked up as autistic a long time ago, and what led me there wouldn't have been pretty. I tend to go a little "crazy" when I'm forced to do things I don't want to, forced to be who I'm not and whatever.

I'm apathetic too concerning many things; my room and whatnot. I don't care; so I didn't mind when my room was cleaned (I did a good enough job anyway), or my stuff was moved around, as long as it was respected how I respect it [or better], I didn't mind.



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26 Sep 2007, 12:15 am

handling criticism is always difficult for me. a friendship is being tested right now, because of the way i' am handling it, and the passive/aggressive things that come out of me and hurt my friend's feelings. i am beginning to see what she's talking about, in that under stress/pressure (of my own making?) i will say things that are hurtful and stupid. lack of social skills and isolation have a lot to do with this, and i know there is probably more than a.s. involved. therapy is my only way to find alternatives and answers, because without them, i cannot begin to accept the limitations of a.s. and not feel i have done everything i could to help myself and stop the things that are hurting a friendship. some days it's so frustrating when i can't express anything and/or edit myself severely when i find myself doing 'aspie' things like parroting or missing social cues/layered thinking in discussions. these problems for me need to stop, and i wonder if it's one of those mini-'meltdowns' that happen dealing with a.s., or something else with it. being criticized is very hard for me, be it from a parent or a close friend.



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26 Sep 2007, 5:34 am

My mom can often say things in a rather blunt way, which has the possibility of making me upset--- I just say she's being French ( where she's from--- they don't hide anything) and now it doesn't bother me that much. she has alot of problems, too--- let's just say psychiatric in nature. so I know she doesn't always mean to be so... well, harsh.
As a kid, though, it could really hurt--- i was super sensitive to criticism from others and still am--- I'm better at dealing with it and holding my feelings about it now.



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26 Sep 2007, 7:50 am

Rage.

As an infant I shook the crib so hard - at the outrage of being discounted and forgotten - that it disintegrated. Broke. Kapish.

Later - temper tantrums - hours on end.


Later - breaking things, slamming doors, running away.


Later - promiscuity and self-destruction.

Later - resignation.

Later - forgiving.