living in facility ..has they got a rigth do do this?

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what u think about can they really do this? i live in family home(or actually its more like facility) and they are going put me in restrain board if get one more meltdown...i have been trying to explain em that i cant help it etc.

this is the link to side where they said they are gonna order it they actually showed me it

http://www.quickmedical.com/olympicmedi ... oards.html

i wouldn't be so f****d if this wouldn't be facility

probably if they can't control you in other ways.

well i do what they say but if i get meltdown coz of some arguing it usuallu last only 5 mins...couldn't they just hold me?

drones usually don't have feelings of compassion - so they won't hold you. You can either submit and go limp or give them the fight of your life which will probably just hurt you in the end more. Do you have a social worker who can intervene for you?

i don't know do i have social worker or not i just come here a 2 months ago ...i think im not gonna let em restrain me whit out fighting since as u can probably guess i don't like being in restraints at all so if there has no good reason for letting em do it im not gonna give up!:evil:

TECHNICALLY it is against the law in the US, but ****THEY**** will be believed before you will. They do this all the time, and probably more.

Just for ONCE I wish they would do their jobs. If you are being honest here, they could solve the problem just by being more respective of your needs and problems.

BTW They will NOT hold you for 5 minutes.

what else of u people think?

What's getting you so angry that they need to restrain you?

well they cant hold me any longer then 15 mins..there are restraint laws for that

agree they could solve entire problem just by giving me some pace

Are you vocal? Could you not just tell them to give you space?

they restrain me mainly if i get angry they don't care how angry im..last time i got upset coz i wanted home to weekend's but they wont let me in minute i suposset to go coz i needed to clean my room well i said i clean it when i come back..it wasent in their plant so they puttet me down for "not cooperating with staff"

If they are using this to control you, they should not have a legal right to do this. Whether they actually have that legal right only a lawyer could tell you. If in your meltdowns you harm others, they probably have an obligation to prevent that by whatever means cause the least physical and psychological harm. These things look like they should cause little physical harm, but depending on who they are used on and how, the psychological harm could be serious. Only it would be harder to prove.


If they are motivated by harm you may do to others, that would only help persuade them that they must use those boards to stop you, because you can't stop yourself.

Is there another alternative? Even if you can't stop a meltdown, can you feel it coming on early enough that you could, for example, run to a room where you are alone? Would you be able to stay there while having a meltdown?

Ideally, these people would like you not to have meltdowns. If that is not an option, can you prevent as much or more of the problems which a meltdown causes by another method, which takes the same or less effort on the part of the other people? Then you would have a way of giving them much of what they want while getting more of what you want.


Are your meltdowns triggered by a predictable situation? If yes, do the people in the facility not understand what triggers the meltdowns, or is there a reason why they can't or don't want to avoid those triggers?

i have been tryet they just said they don't do the laws they said social side calls for rules
but if possible i would not talk to em ..i can talk in Internet or via computer but i don't really talk much in real live and yes they know it

depending on were you live and the medical policies and regulations of dealing with autistic will say weather the use of the papoose board is right or wrong, i know hospitals use it for restraining children for pediatric exam and treatment of eyes or other facial stuff,

to be exact when i was 7 i was put in one of these when i had drops put in my eyes when taken to ER because my brother pushed me into a fireplace end iron and top of end iron touched my eye ball (yea painful)

i guess reason why they are used in autistic and disorders is maybe tehy feel that swaddling (like done to babies when a blanket is wrapped around them) that it helps comfort and keep them safe,

but if used to control a meltdown, i think if you are not a harm to others or a harm to society and on some homicide or suicide watch they might be just overreacting.

it also can be that the staff at the place dont fully understand what is going on to an autistic and think restraining and doing this type of treatment(maybe they believe in ABA theory that is more like training a dog) is best thing to do to help an autistic??

anyway, how old are you (maybe theres differant codes and regulations for children then done for adults??)

hope you can get help and better explanation and maybe move out to a more independant and less nt-like place to live.

gromit:

ya i think they are planing use this to control me better and only one that i would hurt when i got meltdown are ones trying to restrain me so only those who are working in here ....yea i would need to ask do i have a lawyer or not ..i have been here only 2 montsh

2. i think they are motivated by harm i do at them..u they are using em to stop me and then control me
here is an exsamble if i get meltdown they first place me in board then they can easily carry me to my room and restrain me in bed

and i know when its coming so i think i might ask em to restrain me earlier"sight" will that solve problem?..well at least im gonna try it:)

and u are right about that too they don't want me to get meltdowns but i cant prevent em

3.yea..there has a certain situation's which launches meltdowns
i guess they could prevent tiggers..just hoping they would not argue whit me about everything..i cant stand if every one in here say same think about 100 times...and i mean it first in morning i may pass someone who told me to go in shower...ok...then 20 minutes later someone comes to my room to tell i need to go in shower even i would allready been in there...this is going all day..its really driving me up the wall

im really nice person anyway ...just cant stand em telling same thinks all day..a 5 hours or so would be ok but they keep it on all day and week

In the US many just don't think or care! If you tell them, they won't listen, etc..... I KNOW it is the same in England!

BTW I have the SAME problem that batista90 has!

People have LITERALLY stood around me for HOURS, throwing stupid ideas around, etc... Perhaps 99.9% of the time, on those RARE circumstances when they come up with a good idea, I have ALREADY shown it wasn't valid. I TRIED to tell them ****STAY AWAY!! !!**** I do my WORST work when watched, with people standing around me. Yet THEY DON'T CARE!! !! It costs an average of $1250 extra every day they do that JUST FOR ME! Consequent costs can be in the MILLIONS(I'm not kidding), but THEY DON'T CARE!

BTW Often times, the problem is solved BY ME soon after they leave! They almost always take credit, even though it is simply because I can now think straight!

SO, if some jerk that has to pay more and may lose his job, by standing over me, won't stop, why would a person that might get PAID more and may appear to be more needed, stop because one in his/her "care" asks? Some people here consider some problems "JOB SECURITY". That is a term to indicate that a problem shows that you are needed. If nobody in such a place acted up, fewer people would be needed, and each would have simpler tasks. So fewer would be hired, and salaries would be lower.