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Speech and HFA/AS
Poll ended at 07 Oct 2007, 10:32 pm
I was a late talker, after 6 yrs 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
I was NOT a late talker 90%  90%  [ 18 ]
Total votes : 20

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02 Oct 2007, 10:32 pm

I am very intrigued by the fact that there seem to be numerous HFA/AS people here, yet many of the kids that I know nowadays with autism, even those who are just diagnosed ADHD/ADD are non-verbal or learn to talk very late, after age 6 and only with speech therapy, etc...

I have a crazy theory on this whole autism epidemic issue and really want to know about the adults diagnosed, etc.



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02 Oct 2007, 10:35 pm

Hmm... I was considered a late talker, as well as my son. We both started talking around 4 years old and my daughter seems to be doing the same... didn't vote as that wasn't really an option, lol. Docs told me normal is around 2-3.


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02 Oct 2007, 10:36 pm

Actually, I meant to add one more option as non-verbal, but I messed up! haha

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02 Oct 2007, 11:23 pm

nope I was articulate with fully formed long sentences at an early age.



03 Oct 2007, 12:50 am

I didn't start talking till I was 4.



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03 Oct 2007, 4:40 am

i think I started to talk around 2 and 3/4



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03 Oct 2007, 4:59 am

First sentence at 5; I don't know when my first "social" one was.

Most people with autistic disorder develop speech and/or the ability to communicate (those with "LFA"), those who say otherwise are wrong, yup, that includes that psycho I saw the other week at the specialized AS/AD clinic.



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03 Oct 2007, 8:55 am

No. I learned to speak at the normal age and had a good vocabulary.



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03 Oct 2007, 9:33 am

I thought part of the definition of AS is that people with AS don't have delays in speech development?



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03 Oct 2007, 10:33 am

I was a "normal" talker-talking by 2years. My husband talked after 4 years.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:51 am

whatamess wrote:
I am very intrigued by the fact that there seem to be numerous HFA/AS people here, yet many of the kids that I know nowadays with autism, even those who are just diagnosed ADHD/ADD are non-verbal or learn to talk very late, after age 6 and only with speech therapy, etc...


If they don't talk until after 6 years, then they don't just have ADHD/ADD, they have a *very severe* speech delay, so at the very least they have some kind of speech disorder. I would be surprised if they didn't get any other diagnosis on top of that though. Really, anyone who isn't speaking at all by age 2, or isn't intelligible by age 3 should be brought in for a speech and hearing evaluation.

People with AS, even if they don't have any kind of obvious speech disorder or delay, often have noticeable pragmatic problems in their use of language and possibly subtler speech abnormalities as well, so that often the speech pathologist might be the first person to suspect ASD. Unlike other professionals, such as doctors, SLPs are specifically trained in the pragmatics of communication.



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03 Oct 2007, 11:03 am

I didn't start talkin until i was 6 but den i had classic autism but den has AS wen i was 11 i don't know a lot about da HFA ting 2 tell u da truth.



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03 Oct 2007, 12:09 pm

Diagnosed with HFA. I believe I started talking around 3-4 with some therapy. I was mainstreamed in school, and while my reading was delayed, I had extra help catching up to a normal level.



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03 Oct 2007, 12:58 pm

I was a very late talker, started babbling at the almost age of 3, said kinda one worders at the age of 4, and started talking in full sentences, like good understandable full sentences until after the age of 8..... also diagnosed with HFA!


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03 Oct 2007, 10:51 pm

ChelseaOcean wrote:
I thought part of the definition of AS is that people with AS don't have delays in speech development?


That's what the DSM-IV-TR says. However, some specialists purvey that those with AS can have the verbal impairment and delays in such (Attwood and his ilk).

Ironically enough, I have AS in their eyes because I can talk to professionals and my family (I don't talk to anyone else); I don't say a single word due to severe social retardation.

To be "autistic" in their eyes one must be completely mute to everyone.

My psychic says I'm "classically autistic", he's been around for a long time (way, way and way before Asperger's stuff was implemented).



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03 Oct 2007, 11:20 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
That's what the DSM-IV-TR says. However, some specialists purvey that those with AS can have the verbal impairment and delays in such (Attwood and his ilk).


That was what Dr. Asperger thought, also. Same for Lorna Wing, the one who first called it "Asperger's syndrome." The "no speech delay" clause was added in 1994, due to confusing situations where patients qualified for diagnoses of both autism and AS. Is it a natural distinction, or a made up rule? Hard to say!