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05 Oct 2007, 5:33 am

This I did however know of, that I was going to be fired..They told me that about one week ago.. Anyway, what I reacted to was the person who was dealing with all this. He told me that I should not think that it was fun to fire me and that they are human people.. Well, I did not think anything else.. He asked me if there was anything I thought I could work with for my employer (the community) and I said that this was a hard question and that it should involve computers in that case.. I felt very confused my now, here we are, having a meeting where I am going to be fired and he ask me this question...The other person (who I met when during the last meeting) said that I would like to work with animals..and this person then told me that I could maybe practice with the Sami people, taking care of the reindeers. "Well, I said, if anyone is willing to pay me for that..then go ahead"..Then he just laughed :?

He returned to the fact that he did not like to fire people and went on about that for a while and then he told me that a friend of him has Aspergers. Ok, I thought.. After this he started to tell me that everyone is getting diagnosed these days and that he bet that he would get a diagnose as well if he did the tests.. "I do not agree, I said"..

Then I got to sign the papers and I am now officially fired..

I started to walk out of the room and he wished me good luck.. I said thank you, but did not even turn to face him..

All this meeting I was thinking "Shut up and just do your work! Let's get this over with"

/Anna



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05 Oct 2007, 5:54 am

Well I'm only an adolescent and I don't know what this must feel like... ain't quite starting a career just yet... and I know this may only be of consolation but it does sound to me as though you took this really well and kept high and strong. :) I'm sorry about you being fired and all...


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05 Oct 2007, 5:55 am

I'm really sorry to hear about this and hope you can find something else.
Sounds like he was trying to make himself feel better about it and justify his actions.

*virtual hug*


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05 Oct 2007, 6:50 am

I've been fired many times, and it does truly suck.

I agree with alexbeetle: {{{Anna}}}

I also agree with Samtoo: you handled yourself like a pro during the meeting - well done!

I hope you get excellent unemployment benefits to tide you over until you find another job. I know nothing about the assistance available to you where you are, but I hope they find you a job that really suits you. Best of luck!



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05 Oct 2007, 7:16 am

different,

Your old boss just sounds like a total jerk! The diagnosis is not really supposed to mean anything anyway! It is supposed to be what CAUSES the diagnosis. If you have the symptoms, and the problems, WHO CARES what they are called?



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05 Oct 2007, 7:24 am

Wow! You did handle it well! I dread the day that happens because I always say I'll be the one on the news telling everyone about their injustices...ok, they don't much like me already because I already tell them when they do something illegal...I think they want to get rid of me but are afraid I won't keep my mouth shut as others currently do.

Anyway, good luck to you...Actually, since HE mentioned something about Asperger's, I would think he knows you have it or thinks you have it? If so, just because he mentioned that when firing you, can't you sue them for descrimination?



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05 Oct 2007, 7:28 am

Was the termination justified? With distance and hindsight, I have to admit that the people who fired me had cause in that I did not fit with the team, but the work was always done well. The groups I joined were often very difficult places to work; filled with type A, alpha male type gorrillas who were desperate to get to the top. Fitting in was never going to be easy for anyone, certainly not for a gorrilla wannabe Aspie like myself. And getting fired ranks as one of the worst experiences anyone can have. It is like getting stabbed with an invisible knife and dying spiritually but remaining trapped though withered in your coporeal body. The days, weeks and months that followed were hard. Never was I more morbidly reminded of how incomplete and broken I am then when I am violently and maliciously tossed out by yet another group of human beings. But take heed, time does heal the wounds. Go easy on yourself the next few days. Take a breather from all the nastiness that suffocated you before and give this time to yourself. It is just another punch that we Aspies have to roll with.



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05 Oct 2007, 8:05 am

different wrote:
This I did however know of, that I was going to be fired..They told me that about one week ago.. Anyway, what I reacted to was the person who was dealing with all this. He told me that I should not think that it was fun to fire me and that they are human people.. Well, I did not think anything else.. He asked me if there was anything I thought I could work with for my employer (the community) and I said that this was a hard question and that it should involve computers in that case.. I felt very confused my now, here we are, having a meeting where I am going to be fired and he ask me this question...The other person (who I met when during the last meeting) said that I would like to work with animals..and this person then told me that I could maybe practice with the Sami people, taking care of the reindeers. "Well, I said, if anyone is willing to pay me for that..then go ahead"..Then he just laughed :?

He returned to the fact that he did not like to fire people and went on about that for a while and then he told me that a friend of him has Aspergers. Ok, I thought.. After this he started to tell me that everyone is getting diagnosed these days and that he bet that he would get a diagnose as well if he did the tests.. "I do not agree, I said"..

Then I got to sign the papers and I am now officially fired..

I started to walk out of the room and he wished me good luck.. I said thank you, but did not even turn to face him..

All this meeting I was thinking "Shut up and just do your work! Let's get this over with"

/Anna


It sounds like your boss was discriminating against you because of your AS. Do you know the reason why you were fired? If you do then was it an acceptable one?
If he is just firing you because of AS then that is totally wrong. Because by the coments that he made it sounds like he fired you because of AS.
Anyway, in my opinion your ex-boss sounds like a bit of a jerk to be honest. Saying that "everyone" gets diagnosed with AS these days is a bit dramatic...because surely he doesn't know everyone in the world.


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05 Oct 2007, 8:19 am

Zeno wrote:
With distance and hindsight, I have to admit that the people who fired me had cause in that I did not fit with the team, but the work was always done well.


Zeno, why is "not fitting in with the team" a justifiable reason to fire someone? If the work was done well, that was the only criteria they should have taken into consideration!! !! !

Different, you have not said why you were fired. But it sounds like they would have been willing to find you something more suited to you if there had been anything. That implies that it wasn't because they didn't like you.



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05 Oct 2007, 8:39 am

I hate working with people so much that in the end, getting fired or "let go" is such a relief that I'm glad that it happens.

Of course, that means I have no money and that means life is much more difficult... Bills, rent, food, internet...

I'm with a disability supportive employment placement thingy company now and they're working on getting me a job that won't make me go postal. Actually, now I'm far more likely to just quit with a big grin than cause any trouble. I've never quit a job, well, not without making them quit me.

Of course I realise that most people are not like this and it really sucks to be abandoned by an employer like that. Good luck in landing on your feet.


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05 Oct 2007, 9:13 am

different wrote:
[edited text follows]He told me that I should not think that it was fun to fire me and that they are human people..

He returned to the fact that he did not like to fire people and went on about that for a while and then he told me that a friend of him has Aspergers.




After this he started to tell me that everyone is getting diagnosed these days and that he bet that he would get a diagnose as well if he did the tests.. "I do not agree, I said"..

Sure he would..... :?
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All this meeting I was thinking "Shut up and just do your work! Let's get this over with"

/Anna

I'd expect so; I cannot help but think the person firing you would too if he was not way off the planet in regards to the self-diagnosis he trotted out for you, ironically in what appears to be a fit of NT-esque attempted empathy...



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05 Oct 2007, 9:34 am

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Zeno, why is "not fitting in with the team" a justifiable reason to fire someone? If the work was done well, that was the only criteria they should have taken into consideration!! !! !

Different, you have not said why you were fired. But it sounds like they would have been willing to find you something more suited to you if there had been anything. That implies that it wasn't because they didn't like you.


With more grey hairs now, I have to admit that working well with others is as important as getting the job done well. Finance and consulting (my previous incarnations) are archetypal service industries. At every level, one has to please. Making sure that external customers are satisfied goes without saying. But ensuring that internal customers are kept happy is also a part of everyone’s job description. And unlike pleasing external customers, keeping one’s colleagues humming and chirpy is far more complicated and difficult. Office politics can be byzantine in its complexity and people will go to great lengths to cover the bases. Like it or not, it is not just the kind of burger you deliver, it is also how you deliver the burger that matters. In other words, people have got to be happy with the way you work.



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05 Oct 2007, 9:58 am

I'm in a similar situation

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt44636.html



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05 Oct 2007, 10:01 am

But why?????

As long as the external customers are satisfied, I do not see the problem.

(If there is a problem with the way you work, then surely, by definition, you are not "doing your job well"!)

And why is it your responsibility to keep your colleagues "humming and chirpy"? It sounds like one of those weird ideas NT's seem to spout!

When at work, your role is to complete a task. If you complete that task, accurately and on time, it should not matter if your work style is different to that of others.



05 Oct 2007, 12:55 pm

Why were you fired different? I don't understand.



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05 Oct 2007, 1:12 pm

Congratulations Anna...on being found unsuitable to work as part of a team with irrational, incompetent idiots who's social skills and sensitivity almost equal those of my car keys.
:D :D :D

Think how much worse it would be to be congratulated on fitting in so well with people like that!

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