Deceitful Aspergian?

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When I was five I was completely infatuated by crystal-stones. Their transparency, smoothness, symmetrical shapes and awesome light-refracting capabilities.
The thing is I used to steal every single one I came across, and I knew what I did was wrong, as I, in order to keep my possession of them as inconspicuous as possible, used lies and deceit to validate my ownership of them (to my parents).

Now, wouldn't this depraved scenario be inconceivable for someone with asperger's, thereby excluding me from your ranks of sainthood?
Or does anyone here share similar experiences of being a lying reprobate?

I was just under the impression that someone with asperger's wouldn't lie; especially at such an early age.

Someone please contact the pope.

Yes I did that sort of s**t when I was a nipper. I believe it was toy dinosaurs with me.



Done. He'll be round with the inquisitioin in an hour.

If I said 'everything I say is a lie,' am I lying?

You called?

I stole matchbox cars when I was 10 because I collected them. I didn't steal them all, just when my mum wouldn't buy me one.
She once didn't buy me a Space Jam toy of Taz, so I stole it. She found out though and cried. I was confused.
Oh yes, when I was about 3 or 4 I stole a Simpsons toy. No one will give me any money to buy one.
I once stole a whole heap of toys from a friend. I knew it was wrong but I just wanted all his stuff so badly.

Weird though, I'm quite the legal Beagle these days.

Your post is absolutely hilarious, therefore, being a saint myself and being tight with the pope, I can assure you that you will receive absolution.

I think it depends on the type of lie. My son is fairly honest. He might deny a small misdeed but I can't imagine him concocting an elaborate fiction in order to manipulate me. He has a friend his age who will do exactly that though. I think if it's a complicated multi-layered lie a person with Asperger's will avoid it.

People with AS are not uniform in their traits. It's not at all inconceivable that someone with AS might be relatively good at lying; it's a specific skill that can be learned just like any other. If you have normal theory of mind, as many of us do, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out what to say so that the other person might be deceived.

The idea that "people with AS can't lie" is about as true as "people with AS fail the Sally-Anne test". Which is to say, not very.

Most Aspies aren't good at lying, sure. But a few are fine at it, just like a few of us are good at public speaking or dancing or some other stereotypically non-Aspie skill.

I lied when little. much more than I do now.

That reminds me of one thing I'll never forget. It happened when I was six. I was at a grocery store with my mom called, Skaggs Alpha-Beta and they had a counter in the front with plastic bins full of candy and gum. A woman stood behind the counter with white paper bags and a cash register. My mom got me a piece of gum everytime we went to the store, on the way out (the counter was right next to the doors, in the front of the store) I wanted a two cent piece of Super Bubble and my mom said no, so, I took a piece of gum and hid it in the pocket of my jacket, without letting go of it. On the way to the car, I unwrapped the gum and began chewing it, hoping no one would see me. My mom did see me, in the rear view mirror. She demanded to know what I had in my mouth. "Is that gum?" There was no fooling her. She found the gum and was so angry at me for taking it. She marched me back inside the grocery store where I had to tell the woman at the candy counter I took the gum, I was sorry and then I had to pay her two cents.
My mom was angry at me the rest of the night. I would never steal anything now, but at the time, I can remember wondering why it was such a big deal since it only cost two cents. I thought two cents was nothing and couldn't understand why she wouldn't get me a two cent piece of bubble gum. I never did it again after that.

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I had almost the same experience! I stole a pack of gum from the grocery store when I was 5. I tried to chew it secretly in the car on the way home but my mother smelled it and drove me back to the store where I had to apologize to the store manager. It definitely made an impact on me.

I lie all the time. Sometimes I do it for fun and practice.

That thing, that stereotype that goes "people with aspergers are naive, childlike, and don't lie" is so f*****g offensive.

*contacts the pope*

I'm capable of lying convincingly. I don't like lying, though, so I refrain from it.

The best liar I've ever met (and the most scarily manipulative person I've ever met) is diagnosed with AS.

I think my mom smelled my gum too, looked in the rear view mirror and saw me chewing. I remember her telling an Aunt about it and saying she could smell it first. I also remember arguing with her about it costing only two cents and her telling me the price wasn't what mattered, it was the fact I took the gum without paying.
It was definitely a life altering event for me.

I did many antisocial acts as a child, because I didn't...care, nor did I see that what I did was wrong. I grew out of this once I "woke up" to myself and understood cause and effect and guilt.

I was a compulsive shoplifter as a kid..I never do it anymore though.

Well, that's a relief then.

Cosmiccat- thanks for the absolution.

It is likewise heartwarming to see how easily some of you will sell me out to the pope, but then I did ask for it.