Being over estimated vs. underestimated

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21 Oct 2007, 2:47 am

Does anyone else get under estimated and over estimated?



I do and it's real annoying. People under estimate me at first and then when they realize what I am capable of than they realized or they realize I am very smart so they start to over estimate me instead. They assume I can read between the lines and understand what they mean and they assume I can read their minds and assume I can figure out what they asked me without having to explain what they meant. I get told by my office clerk sometimes I need to use my common sense when I take him literal or misunderstand him.
It's never in between except for my parents since they know me well.

I Keep my IQ to myself now and I tell everyone I have a bad memory so they wouldn't assume I remember everything (c'mon I don't have a photographic memory and I do forget what questions I asked and forget what people look like, etc).


I'd rather be under estimated rather than being over because then people are less as*holes to me when they are under estimating me.



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21 Oct 2007, 5:01 am

Overestimated = when people say 'aim for distinction' :lol:

Underestimated = when people don't think I'm going to achieve the things I want in the social world out there. Not on my own no, but with the right friends and the right back-up, almost undeniably yes, yes I will. But then again - everyone relies on the right type of people.


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21 Oct 2007, 5:20 am

most of the time underestimated. People always say stuff like "you don't look like you can do this or that" then I do it and omg I can. :roll:

You don't show enough enthusiasm you must not want to be here. I'm afraid we're going to have to drop you.

Someone else asks the first available guy to work on their computer. It crashed. I sit there impatiently fidgeting because I know what should be done. The problem isn't getting fixed. I'm not allowed to fix it. I'm a girl. Okay your computer will stay broken, have a nice life.

You don't look sad. You must not be.

You don't look happy. You must not be.

You aren't kissing up to me. You are on thin ice in comparison to those that do.

I sometimes wonder if I'm not the problem and the problem is others lack of ability to dig deeper. They depend way too much on what is on the outside instead of what is on the inside. Why is being blunt a disabling trait meanwhile hinting is not? Why even bother teaching kids that honesty is the best policy? It's a lie.



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21 Oct 2007, 5:35 am

I don't care what people think of me and my abilities.



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21 Oct 2007, 5:37 am

I am usually underestimated and first, then overestimated.


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21 Oct 2007, 5:39 am

Danielismyname wrote:
I don't care what people think of me and my abilities.


Good. They aren't deserving of your care!



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21 Oct 2007, 7:44 am

I don't really care. I have more important things to worry about, like bills and finding job that has a permanent address, and maybe finding the best weight loss programme for me to follow.


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21 Oct 2007, 9:46 am

I think that, because I was advanced academically as a child, they overestimated my ability to handle other aspects of my life. It was hard to stay in control when bullies were attacking me and making me live in fear of my life. Still in all, I am glad people expected good things of me because I wouldn't have made it otherwise.

I think I am underestimated, not in terms of ability, but in terms of confidence. I am working on it so I can eventually get a full time job at work.



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21 Oct 2007, 9:53 am

likedcalico,

That is the story of my life! People that don't know me, or may have just met me, might think I am not too bright. I was once told by one customer that I was their last hope(They tried 3 times before) and that I was to wait for "the expert" to come in in about a week, and show me the ropes. WELL, they made a BIG mistake! They gave me all the pieces! So what happened??????

I put it all together, and did about 1/3 of the project. My "co/worker" got upset, so I set him up, and we did the rest. We had it done before "the expert" got there, and he just looked and said "WELL DONE!"!
The manager got fired because the partner asked him when it was done and he said in about three weeks. I didn't even know the manager, and we didn't know the partner. The partner came up when we were eating lunch and asked when we would be done. We said ******WE ARE DONE! WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR DATA!****** :lol: Well, the partner was a little upset, and I saw this guy move out and found that he was our manager and was fired by the partner. BTW I stayed there to see even the last phase go in. It required a piece a team of 20 said was impossible. It took me about an hour to do. Half that was spent in the meeting where they were trying to figure out how to do it, and everyone told me to shutup when I said I could do it!

I had another customer that said "OH YEAH, ANOTHER CONSULTANT! You're just going to leave me with pieces!"! I soon left him with something that did EVERYTHING he wanted.

There HAVE been times when I have been asked to do things beyond my ability. I determine feasibility and try to make an educated decision whether I should learn it and do it, change methods, tell them it can't be done with what they have, or suggest someone else. I HATE it when people call me a genius or guru or expert, because people will either think it is hype(which it isn't really, but it doesn't help), or figure you can do EVERYTHING(which, of course, I can't).

As for telling people your IQ. If your IQ is 100 or less, they will figure BIG DEAL, or think less of you then they probably should. If your IQ is 120 or higher, they will probably figure you are like their vision of EINSTIEN, etc... can rotate 3d graphics in your head, do complicated math FAST, remember a lot of stuff fast, etc.... Of course, these assumptions are thrown out if your IQ is close to theirs and they know it, or they know anything about IQ or have past experience with it.

Here, there is a show called "eureka". The sheriff was hired to be a sheriff. He is, by all accounts, one of the dumbest in the town. The town was supposedly created to be loaded with very smart scientists, etc... The sheriff has a daughter that now has to go to their school.

There is a scene where the sheriff is ELATED to tell his daughter that his IQ is like 115. Later, they sit down, and he says he found out that his score was still roughly average, and the daughter opens her IQ test results, and they say she has an IQ of like 150. He asks, out of curiousity, what she got, and she says like 114, just to fit in.

BTW I almost HATE HIGH praise. When it is deserved, and well known, it is GREAT! OTHERWISE, FORGET IT! I almost LIKE to be underestimated. And I LOVE having customers eat their words whenever they say anything derogatory about me! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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21 Oct 2007, 11:57 am

I can do complicated logic fast. I don't do math well, though, because math tests are a bunch of broken and scattered pieces that don't do anything for each other. Scattered and broken pieces make me want to think about something else.

Most people don't really know what to make of me, actually. I'm not "overestimated" or "underestimated." I'm just considered strange. I'm perpendicular to others, not above or below them. Well, I like to think I'm a bit on the higher side because...well, it's good to be king. Yeah.



21 Oct 2007, 12:04 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
likedcalico,

That is the story of my life! People that don't know me, or may have just met me, might think I am not too bright. I was once told by one customer that I was their last hope(They tried 3 times before) and that I was to wait for "the expert" to come in in about a week, and show me the ropes. WELL, they made a BIG mistake! They gave me all the pieces! So what happened??????

I put it all together, and did about 1/3 of the project. My "co/worker" got upset, so I set him up, and we did the rest. We had it done before "the expert" got there, and he just looked and said "WELL DONE!"!
The manager got fired because the partner asked him when it was done and he said in about three weeks. I didn't even know the manager, and we didn't know the partner. The partner came up when we were eating lunch and asked when we would be done. We said ******WE ARE DONE! WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR DATA!****** :lol: Well, the partner was a little upset, and I saw this guy move out and found that he was our manager and was fired by the partner. BTW I stayed there to see even the last phase go in. It required a piece a team of 20 said was impossible. It took me about an hour to do. Half that was spent in the meeting where they were trying to figure out how to do it, and everyone told me to shutup when I said I could do it!



Why was he fired for asking your partner when you guys are done?



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21 Oct 2007, 12:17 pm

likedcalico wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
likedcalico,

That is the story of my life! People that don't know me, or may have just met me, might think I am not too bright. I was once told by one customer that I was their last hope(They tried 3 times before) and that I was to wait for "the expert" to come in in about a week, and show me the ropes. WELL, they made a BIG mistake! They gave me all the pieces! So what happened??????

I put it all together, and did about 1/3 of the project. My "co/worker" got upset, so I set him up, and we did the rest. We had it done before "the expert" got there, and he just looked and said "WELL DONE!"!
The manager got fired because the partner asked him when it was done and he said in about three weeks. I didn't even know the manager, and we didn't know the partner. The partner came up when we were eating lunch and asked when we would be done. We said ******WE ARE DONE! WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR DATA!****** :lol: Well, the partner was a little upset, and I saw this guy move out and found that he was our manager and was fired by the partner. BTW I stayed there to see even the last phase go in. It required a piece a team of 20 said was impossible. It took me about an hour to do. Half that was spent in the meeting where they were trying to figure out how to do it, and everyone told me to shutup when I said I could do it!



Why was he fired for asking your partner when you guys are done?


PARTNER is a term KPMG(one of the old big 5 consulting firms which is now known as bearing point http://www.bearingpoint.com/portal/site/bearingpoint) used to describe basically a division owner/manager.

Think of him almost like a partner in a law firm.

The partner was not MY boss, but was the boss of the manager hired under his unit to manage us. He fired the manager because the manager wasn't on top of things and/or just LIED!
That is how it was explained to me anyway. Basically the partner had responsibility for, and got profits from the region.



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21 Oct 2007, 12:39 pm

How you understand someones innate ability influences how you interpret their failures.

When a bright person fails at a task, others are more likely to ascribe the failure to apathy or contempt for the task or the person who assigned him the task.

When a dim person fails, others are more likely to ascribe the failure to stupidity and make allowances. "It's not his fault, he's just a little slow."

I don't let people at work know how bright I am. I would rather they think me dim than lazy, arrogant or disinterested



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21 Oct 2007, 2:23 pm

mostley ive been over estimated by the way i talk


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21 Oct 2007, 2:52 pm

I'm often underestimated. Especially in school. No wonder though, I fail at the easy task and then people of course won't give me the hard task, which I usually am able to solve easily. When I do the "difficult stuff" quickly and easily and then fail at the simple, people say my achievements aren't important, because I can't do the easy things everybody should be able to do and that it's far more important to be able to answer to "how are you?" then to a find the solution of a scientific assignment.

I also tend to "forget" skills in situations in which there are people who dislike me or in general stressful situations. I even "forgot" reading altogether when I was a child whenever I was at school in the morning, but read well when at 2pm each day when I was at home. This sometimes causes people, who get to see what I can do half of the time, to overestimate me!

That's why I do good not to expect anything from other people.