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08 Oct 2007, 12:15 pm

Trying to help a friend who has AS and just came out as being Gay. Wondering if anyone can think of anyone who is gay and might be AS. My ffirend thinks that no one can be successful in life with both . Thanks so very much .



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08 Oct 2007, 12:19 pm

Just happen to be SMS'ing with wonderful gay Aspie friend RIGHT NOW...

Confidentially, I suspect being gay and Aspie works out well, the two things work in each other's favor...I know here we find that all of us (even the str8 ones) are more comfortable in the gay community than anywhere else.

Give him my congratulations on coming out into the light...

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08 Oct 2007, 12:58 pm

I'm gay and aspie. But you might want to point him to a book called BORN ON A BLUE MONDAY, written by a guy who is gay and aspie as well.



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08 Oct 2007, 1:50 pm

I don't think the two are connected.... it seems like "gay" is the new trendy thing, it seems like everyone's just bursting out of the closet now - and they gain instant acceptance when they do.

Hmmm.... there may be a connection after all. Maybe because we aspies have relationship troubles, it leads to all kinds of confusions with our sexuality.

Bear in mind this in an incomplete thought and one I'll have to muddle over for a while. :)



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08 Oct 2007, 2:06 pm

im shure most people think i like the same sex, and sometimes i do but i never act on it :lol:


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08 Oct 2007, 2:41 pm

BlueMax wrote:
I don't think the two are connected.... it seems like "gay" is the new trendy thing, it seems like everyone's just bursting out of the closet now - and they gain instant acceptance when they do.

Hmmm.... there may be a connection after all. Maybe because we aspies have relationship troubles, it leads to all kinds of confusions with our sexuality.

Bear in mind this in an incomplete thought and one I'll have to muddle over for a while. :)


I disagree with pretty much everything here. The visibility of gay people hasn't increased because gay is the "new trendy thing", but because society has only recently reached a point where gay people can come out of the closet without fearing losing their families, friends, jobs, and even their lives. People don't become gay as a result of relationship troubles. Sexual orientation is determined before puberty, and probably before birth. Finally, being gay isn't a confusion of sexuality, it is a completely normal variation of human sexuality - just like being autistic/AS is a completely normal variation of neurobiology.



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08 Oct 2007, 3:13 pm

Cooper wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
I don't think the two are connected.... it seems like "gay" is the new trendy thing, it seems like everyone's just bursting out of the closet now - and they gain instant acceptance when they do.

Hmmm.... there may be a connection after all. Maybe because we aspies have relationship troubles, it leads to all kinds of confusions with our sexuality.

Bear in mind this in an incomplete thought and one I'll have to muddle over for a while. :)


I disagree with pretty much everything here. The visibility of gay people hasn't increased because gay is the "new trendy thing", but because society has only recently reached a point where gay people can come out of the closet without fearing losing their families, friends, jobs, and even their lives. People don't become gay as a result of relationship troubles. Sexual orientation is determined before puberty, and probably before birth. Finally, being gay isn't a confusion of sexuality, it is a completely normal variation of human sexuality - just like being autistic/AS is a completely normal variation of neurobiology.


Well, I DID say my theory was nowhere near "well thought out" more like "half-baked". ;)
I think there's more to it than just what you said, too... I've seen people get hurt by one gender so badly they "switched sides" (and even said exactly so!) I'll bet there's as many reasons as there are people. Some people just are... some people choose... I have no real experience to draw on.

Unless it's something to gain acceptance for being "weird", I don't think it has any connection with asperger's.



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08 Oct 2007, 3:22 pm

I was thinking earlier today that Asperger's might have a connection to BIsexuality--but that, again, is half-baked.

But, definitely, the gay quota present among the people I tend to talk to is much higher than reasonable among the population at large, but I've never become part of the mainstream gay community or talked too openly about it all.

We thought that we were probably less held by societal views, being misfits and intellectually different an' all, so we didn't mind admitting to ourselves or others about our sexuality--but that doesn't explain enough, so I decided it was probably some weird effect of our brains being wired differently.

I KNOW sexuality is WAY more complicated than being "gay" or "straight" at birth, and people can find pleasure counter to their preference--not everyone has a strong preference, but some people DO... And some people have a strong preference but also a strong enough attraction to the other side...

Yeah, definitely something you can't sort out on an internet community thread unless someone knows a link to a valid study.



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08 Oct 2007, 4:30 pm

You can't be gay and have Asperger's.

That is an absolute fact.



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08 Oct 2007, 4:38 pm

Thelostcup wrote:
You can't be gay and have Asperger's.

That is an absolute fact.

......... 8O
Was this a form of humour? I don't get it....



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08 Oct 2007, 4:40 pm

BlueMax wrote:
Thelostcup wrote:
You can't be gay and have Asperger's.

That is an absolute fact.

......... 8O
Was this a form of humour? I don't get it....


It is an abstract thought.

And an absolute fact.



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08 Oct 2007, 4:41 pm

I know one thing for sure, is that he will have an easy love life. Well, at least a sex life, I know from experience. However Im not gay. Another thing I know is that chances are he will be bullied in life twice more than he normally would if he was straight. :cry:


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08 Oct 2007, 5:02 pm

I'm still confused by how you can't be gay and aspie. There are several members of this site who are gay and aspie.

If that's your opinion, I'd be curious to see why you think that thelostcup.



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08 Oct 2007, 5:20 pm

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I'm still confused by how you can't be gay and aspie. There are several members of this site who are gay and aspie.

If that's your opinion, I'd be curious to see why you think that thelostcup.


It is an absolute fact because the abstract thought must become absolute to rule out any other possibilty.



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08 Oct 2007, 5:32 pm

Thelostcup wrote:
sonny1471 wrote:
I'm still confused by how you can't be gay and aspie. There are several members of this site who are gay and aspie.

If that's your opinion, I'd be curious to see why you think that thelostcup.


It is an absolute fact because the abstract thought must become absolute to rule out any other possibilty.

Your still avoiding the question lol...
Sexual preference has nothing to do with if you are on the spectrum or not.


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08 Oct 2007, 5:57 pm

I would like to apologize right now for my part in directing this thread to the trash can it now resides in.

Any saving it before it gets worse? ;)