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25 Nov 2007, 10:18 am

Well, not really. Not quite.

I went out friday to celebrate the finishing of a very tough group assignmnet at uni. I got a little tipsy... Okay, drunk... And I really started to feel like maybe my AS symptoms are lessened by being a bit fershikert.

Particularly my social skills improve and I become more pleasant to be around (not just my perseption but friends of mine try to get me drunk because I'm a lot of fun apparently when I'm four sheets to the wind). Plus I lose some of the things that are heightened with Asperger's, I become a lot less focused and obsessive, I don't overthink things and my I.Q. drops ;)

Maybe we qualify for "medicinal alcohol" rebates.

Seriously though, I couldn't be an alcoholic as I get very bad migraines and a hangover is just a migraine that I asked for.

I know these effects can't universal, I know one guy who's NT and an alcoholic who becomes very Aspie when he gets on the sauce. Has anyone else found that a bit of a tipple causes them to start stumbling towards the NT border? What does getting smashed do to you?


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25 Nov 2007, 10:28 am

One or two drinks lessen anxiety for me, and act as disinhibitors. But overall, I don't like the way that alcohol makes me feel and I don't drink often.



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25 Nov 2007, 10:32 am

If my girlfriend calls me up while I'm sleeping and I answer the phone the exact same thing happens. I'm sleepy and working on alpha waves, so I don't overthink the conversation. Then as I start to wake up, the AS comes out. Hilarious.



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25 Nov 2007, 10:48 am

Hey, my uncle felt the exact same way!
He's a recovering alcoholic. Read into that what you will.



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25 Nov 2007, 10:56 am

i used to do that a lot, in fact for a few years i was on edge of alcoholism, tho not the chemical kind, ( i think !) just psych dependence. At one point i was drinking at 10 in the morning, and i loved the ease of life on alcohol.
But i feel very weird on it now. Don't like the effect anymore. Frightens me. Being mother is restraining factor, can't afford to let go. Source of anxiety. So only drink a couple of glasses , of wine, from time to time.
And i've noticed, when occasionally drunk more, that i'm actually a pretty obnoxiously glib and superficial and ingratiating and silly and over-excitable, and untrustworthy person when pissed. When was younger i liked being like that; it meant i could join in with NTs, and enjoy NT social activities. But i don't want to do that anymore.
I like being aspie now!! Strange as it may seem!! :lol:

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25 Nov 2007, 11:12 am

bheid wrote:
Hey, my uncle felt the exact same way!
He's a recovering alcoholic. Read into that what you will.


yeah, I am a recovering alcoholic and I felt the same way. Unfortunately that stumble towards being more acceptable to other NTs became a stumble anywhere and everywhere, and Aspie or NT, a drunk is still a drunk.

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25 Nov 2007, 11:13 am

If I'm at a social enviroment, drinking relaxes me. I was told by someone that I was more friendly and I didn't seem as off into my own world. I can't drink alot though because I too get migraines and I don't generally like alcohol much.


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25 Nov 2007, 11:24 am

Alcohol is a magnifier for me, it does what I program it to do. If I'm startled or frightened while drinking, I become hypervigilant and not really drunk. If I want to relax and go to sleep, it sedates me. If I want to party and have a good time and be chipper, it does that too. If I don't like whom I'm near, I can get really mean and standoffish. I can say what I feel. I can lie easier and I can tell the truth easier.
I never drank enough to pass out, though. I know men and women who were raped when blacked out.



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25 Nov 2007, 4:48 pm

To me, being drunk curing your AS is a terrible thing. Of course it's going away, you're fricking DRUNK! The only reason it works is because either you're too drunk to care about your social inabilities, or your friends are too drunk to care about your social inabilities.


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25 Nov 2007, 5:30 pm

Hmmm...I think it prolly goes both ways as well. When we drink it lowers our overthinking things in the social forum and thus we loose some of our inhibitions and in general become much more pleasant to be around. In turn and in kind, our friends are drunk and feeling good and everything is sooooo funny, so they don't care about our weirdities anymore. They've become funny and thus socially acceptable. I tend to in general be sarcastic and make jokes about everything, so it's only increased slightly by adding alcohol. I do tend to care less about generally annoying people though, so I don't get grouchy about them.


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25 Nov 2007, 5:32 pm

Even one drink can make me more social. I need to cut down though as I'm starting to do it more and more.

What someone needs to figure out is how to extract the social de-inhibitor out of alcohol and make it into a medication.


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25 Nov 2007, 5:46 pm

YES!! !! ! Figure out what makes it good and put it in a pill. Better yet, another drink!

I'm joking, but serious. It's a great freedom from the social crap, but makes us feel kinna bad. So, more alcohol or de-inhibitor pills please, less icky side effects.


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25 Nov 2007, 5:57 pm

I prefer medical sedatives , thank you.



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25 Nov 2007, 6:48 pm

I've only ever been drunk once. My IQ didn't just drop, it plummeted. I was still just sober enough to realize that things I did and said didn't make sense, but not until after I did or said them. I didn't like that feeling at all. Some other people were more drunk and became ultra-NT, which I also didn't like.

It probably wasn't really a cure for me. Inside, I was still seeing the world the same way, although I was acting differently. Having my actions not agreeing with my thoughts was not fun for me.



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25 Nov 2007, 8:22 pm

Alcohol made me feel less Aspie, in that I was less inhibited and much more outgoing. However, looking back on it the day after, I realized that I was still completely socially ret*d, I just didn't feel self-conscious about it at the time. I cringe to remember some of the stuff that occurred in my drunkenness.



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25 Nov 2007, 9:52 pm

Hmm, I probably should have put a disclaimer on this thread, or perhaps put this in the Adult Life Discussion forum.

I should clarrify a couple of things. I'm not an alcoholic and I don't like alcoholics (I really hope this thread doesn't encourage any non-drinkers to suddenly take up the bottle), I drink alcohol probably once every six months and might get drunk maybe once in a year. For me, getting drunk is anything that alters the way I'm feeling and the way I interact with the world. I never drink to the point of losing my balance or becoming difficult to understand and I never have and never will pass out from getting drunk. I've never been close to throwing up.

I too am very cautious of losing control or altering my perceptions. What I find strange is that when I've had a few, there's always a part of my brain that isn't affected. The logical, sensible half of my personality is still there and still quite loud in my head, it's just that where as it's usually in the drivers seat, it's now scooched over to the passenger side (where it still noisily directs my impulsive side as to what I should be doing, and I do still listen to it).

Also, perhaps migraines are a saving grace, because they really are a great incentive to stay on the wagon for as long as possible. After you've had a skull splitter for almost a week, that affects you to the point that you'll do almost anything to avoid feeling that way again.


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