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02 Nov 2007, 5:54 am

If so, I would agree.


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02 Nov 2007, 6:01 am

you probably seen this, but here is the link to the site if you didnt

http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

it makes sense to me, and even if its not true its good reading



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02 Nov 2007, 6:06 am

pizzaman31195 wrote:
you probably seen this, but here is the link to the site if you didnt

http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

it makes sense to me, and even if its not true its good reading


I probably agree with the dissertation without even reading it through. All I have to do is look at the deep set eyes, eye brows and forehead (also the ears) to make the assessment. Yikes. I'm a lone Aspie in NT-Land. Heaven help us all.


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02 Nov 2007, 6:14 am

I've only skimmed this, I'll read it entirely later, but this looks like some really shakey research an an overall silly concept.



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02 Nov 2007, 6:29 am

We support neuro-diversity on this site.


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02 Nov 2007, 6:39 am

MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


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02 Nov 2007, 7:18 am

Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Is there also an official policy against actual hatred of the SELF? Just so we're clear. Not that I would engage in either, but for clarity's sake. Seems like there ought to be no difference between one type of hatred and other..... 8)


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02 Nov 2007, 7:23 am

Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Excellent. Now if the NTs would start supporting neurodiversity too, we'd be all set.



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02 Nov 2007, 7:25 am

KaliMa wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Excellent. Now if the NTs would start supporting neurodiversity too, we'd be all set.


^5!


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02 Nov 2007, 7:29 am

jjstar wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Is there also an official policy against actual hatred of the SELF? Just so we're clear. Not that I would engage in either, but for clarity's sake. Seems like there ought to be no difference between one type of hatred and other..... 8)

Haterd itself is not the issue. It is hate speech that is not permitted here.

If someone shows up in the Haven full of self-loathing, we try to be supportive, non-critical, and non-judgemental. We've all been there.


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02 Nov 2007, 7:31 am

KaliMa wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Excellent. Now if the NTs would start supporting neurodiversity too, we'd be all set.

Some of them already do. We're making progress.


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02 Nov 2007, 7:48 am

MrMark wrote:
jjstar wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Is there also an official policy against actual hatred of the SELF? Just so we're clear. Not that I would engage in either, but for clarity's sake. Seems like there ought to be no difference between one type of hatred and other..... 8)

Haterd itself is not the issue. It is hate speech that is not permitted here.

If someone shows up in the Haven full of self-loathing, we try to be supportive, non-critical, and non-judgemental. We've all been there.


Oh. The only reason I ask is because I ever saw anyone from the mods ever intervene on a thread that clearly indicated self-loathng of the poster - like it was done here - in *no actual hatred of NT's*. So was just wondering why that was. :?


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02 Nov 2007, 8:08 am

My closest friend is a neurodiversity-supporting NT.
This is a positive thought for you.



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02 Nov 2007, 9:16 am

KaliMa wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
MrMark wrote:
We support neuro-diversity on this site.


In other words, no actual active hate against NTs.


Excellent. Now if the NTs would start supporting neurodiversity too, we'd be all set.


The issue is that almost no one has ever even heard of AS unless they or a close friend or family member have it. You're asking people to support respect something that they don't know exists and that, in addition, often looks a lot like run-of-the-mill rudeness, laziness, etc. If people don't know of any alternative explanation for rudeness (and very few people with AS seem inclined to tell anyone else that they have it), why should they put up with rudeness? And there are a lot more people out there who are just plain rude because they're rude, not because they have AS.

Do you put up with NTs getting in your face and making small talk just because they're NT, or do you come here and complain about them and call them Neanderthals? And that's someone performing what's commonly thought of in Western society as a polite behavior, plus you have the advantage of knowing that they're NT and you're on the autism spectrum. Yet you want people to support what are commonly thought of in Western society as rude behaviors, even though they're totally unaware of any reason to do so.

(I know many people support neurodiversity, but only the people who've ever heard of it can support it, and most people haven't. Obviously this post is only relevant for those who haven't.)



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02 Nov 2007, 9:21 am

Hi Chelsea, Great post. Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?


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02 Nov 2007, 9:55 am

jjstar wrote:
Hi Chelsea, Great post. Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?


No, but both my husband and father do, as do several of my cousins on that side.

If you accept the model of neurodiversity that says that everyone in the world exists along the same spectrum, I'm probably halfway between AS and NT. If you believe that NTs are from another planet, then I guess you'd have to accept that half of me is from one planet and half of me is from another.