Open mic night - Get me my soapbox, please...

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God save the women of the world from those women who believe the misogyny of prehistoric phallocentric beliefs.

God save the Jews from the self hating Jews.

God save the African Americans from the black men and women who believed “the hype” and think of their race as something to be ashamed of, or being white as something to aspire to.

God save the gays from those seeking to cure their own and others homosexuality. Especially those who think their loving God would send them to Hell.

And speaking of cures, self hatred and belief in stupidity... To all those here and everywhere, who think of yourself as a disease. To those of you who preach self destruction, eradication or self flagellation. To you who tell me I'm delusional for thinking this hand of cards isn't so bad. To you who say I'm in denial, about how I am inferior, how I am a born loser, how I am a malfunctioning cog that needs to be removed from the machine. To you who loathe yourself and loathe me for reminding you of you. I pray... I pray... I really pray...

God save the Aspies from people like you.

Amen
A little harsh though
When the whole world says something is a disability, it's easy to believe.
I've gotten very close to becoming cynical and self destructive before, though for reasons only somewhat related to autism.
But in the end it takes a positive force to make something good happen.

The temptation to view ourselves as "damaged goods" is very strong. After all, in the broader community the talk is of deficit, of pathology, of malfunction. What we need, instead, is to look for ways whereby we can feel more positive about ourselves; whereby we feel not as if we are victims of some cosmic joke, but useful and honourable participants in human society.

Yeah, I've had a little lie down and a cuppa and feel much better now.

I think I started this thread rather than just copy/paste this rant into all the threads that start with, "you people are losers! Stop trying to convince yourself you're not psychologically crippled!" or other words to that effect.

I've felt an immense build up of positivity since I was diagnosed. And I think it's fine if other people with AS want to feel like life is more or less over because they have this "debililtating disease" - or that they should suppress everything that makes them, them because there are a bunch of other people who don't like them to be themselves. That's fine, that can be your opinion, your goal, your fundamental truth. But when people start to tell me I should be ashamed of my Asperger's or that I should seek out some drastic cure or that I should refrain from bringing others of my kind into this world lest I degrade the human genepool... That's when I get fired up.

The other thing this is a response to is all the people who say because I'm happy to be like this and that I tell people the benefits of having AS that I'm somehow preaching hatred against NT's! Most of my friends are NT... Well, most of my [everything] are NT. I think NT's are great and we need them, just like we need all sorts of diversity. To say that you're pro one thing makes you anti anti everything else is stupid! It's like people who claim that people of other races who hold on to their cultures and feel good about being who they are, hate white people. This is what we call an illogical conclusion.

People who think that if I don't say NT's are superior to us, that I must be saying NT's are inferior to us. How do these people drive their cars? They can't ever stop anywhere, as they either have to be in top gear or reverse!

And another thing... Oh, wait. That's right, I was saying I'd calmed down, wasn't I?

I'll go put the kettle on and have another little lie down.

I agree with you for the most part, I think. I'm not going to respond point by point.

I agree with your points about the Aspies.

More importantly, I agree with you (I think, because I'm not positive I understood it so if I respond incorrectly, I apologize) that women are messed up.

Are you saying that women are messed up?

I don't like women's lib. I like being a woman, and I like old-fashioned roles.

I like this place because I keep reading things that sound like they came out of my own head...

Every day feels like a fight to prove I'm not different from all the people around me, but I am. Every conversation is a potential minefield that I *must* navigate consciously or risk the consequence of inadvertent failure.

In the idyllic world we'd be accepted for our differences, honored for the unique gifts we have, and we'd respect and honor the "typical" types for their contributions equally.

I don't think of AS as a disease, just a different state of being from the other 159 "typical" people that surround me. It makes me angry/upset that so many of those folk seem to see it as a malfunction, and that there is no accommodation for my difference (though I've been pretty damn accommodating of the way they choose to run things).

But I will not allow myself to be angry with them as individuals, because they simply don't understand, and perhaps lack the faculty to ever understand. They can no more put themselves in our shoes than we can put ourselves in theirs (if we could, we wouldn't be who we are, after all).

And I will never accept that there is anything "wrong" with being AS - yeah it's hard in this NT world, but I like who I am, and I would not give up myself just to "fit in", as tempting as that has been on occasion.

I'm not broken, just different, and f**k anyone who says otherwise.

Nick

I've lived in small rural towns.

The women I'm talking about are the ones who buy into the ideas that they're dumber than men. The women who think that men are the real heroes of every story and that the girls should always be the supporting characters. The ones who think that God is a man and that he made women just so that men would have something to look at, sleep with and darn their socks.

Generally, women who not only feel that their place is at home but that everywoman's place is there, preferably pregnant and cooking.

And of course, having grown up in a couple of small towns, I'm talking about the sad cases of women who feel that all women are either sluts or b*****s and who feel that they themselves fall into one of those categories and should play the role they've been born into.

I like to think most men and women don't have this philosophy anymore, but God save us from those that do.

I think that Aspies should be more understanding about NTs than vice versa. They don't have our "problem", so why should they understand?

We understand our difference, so why shouldn't we be better at understanding the difference and their lack of understanding?

I don't know if I am explaining this right.

I have come to understand that I am different from most people, so I make adjustments in my life in order to fit in to the world that exists. If I can understand that we are all different, and many of us don't see this, whether we are aspie or not, then it is up to me to be patient with those who don't get it.

Let me put it another way.

I can walk on my own two legs. I cannot begin to understand how life is difficult for someone who cannot walk, who is in a wheel chair, until I am in a wheel chair. Most likely, I will not end up in a wheel chair.

Shouldn't the person in the wheel chair, even though he deserves our understanding, be patient with those of us who get in his way because he knows how it is to walk, and that people who walk don't know how difficult it is to get about in a wheel chair with everyone getting in his way?

I think if you're AS you should try to understand NT's and if you're NT, ideally, you should try to understand being AS.

But my rants aren't directed towards this prblem (well, not today ) but rather the self despising aspies. Those who think, "I have AS and my life sucks, therefore, if you have AS, your life sucks. I hate myself and you should hate yourself."

Okay, I see that I misunderstood that point.

I like it if the man in my life is dominant, but that is my own preference. But damn, the man in my life better not mind that I'm an attorney! lol...

I know. This is the hard part, for me, about coming to this forum. I always tend to think that everyone is like me.

I prefer being an Aspie than not, except for not being able to have friends. And there is only one reason that I will remain an Aspie even if some magical being came and offered me the ability to have friends in exchange for being an Aspie: I am able to see patterns in life that help me with my cases that I don't think I would see if I was an NT. And I believe that the reason I am here is to help people with their legal problems.

People with AS are gifted. I know that people with AS also have some hindrances, but having AS is better than not having it.

I'm glad that I learned how to live before I found out that I have AS.

I hope that others who have AS learn how to live with it, too. What a gift. It truly is a gift.

Amen, and I don't think it was too harsh.

God save everyone in this world there are alot of people who need saving, Alcoholics, Drug addicts, Prostitutes, Terrorists all need saving friends, neighbours, people I associate with need saving.

God is a God who saves

John 3v16 quotes For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

You are now my God.
I shall make calf of gold in your honour and worship.