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03 Nov 2007, 3:21 pm

nother life?


I sometimes have dreams that seem like memories. Where I'm walking to school down leafy streets in New York City, from an apartment building, during a time that was probably the 1930s to 1960s. Concentration camp gas chambers gave me a "I can see myself being in there once, and knowing what it was, or at least being in there scared" feeling. The Sachsenhausen concentration camp autopsy room actually looked FAMILIAR, the first time I saw it. Like I'd been THERE before. :? 8O



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03 Nov 2007, 3:27 pm

I think that I was a Pearly King in London, during the last 30 years of the Nineteenth Century. I remember all the Cockneys getting drunk and dancing in the streets. They were swinging one another around and singing, "Knees Up, Mother Brown!" I also remember all the charity work that I did.


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03 Nov 2007, 4:25 pm

Ana54 wrote:
nother life?


I sometimes have dreams that seem like memories. Where I'm walking to school down leafy streets in New York City, from an apartment building, during a time that was probably the 1930s to 1960s. Concentration camp gas chambers gave me a "I can see myself being in there once, and knowing what it was, or at least being in there scared" feeling. The Sachsenhausen concentration camp autopsy room actually looked FAMILIAR, the first time I saw it. Like I'd been THERE before. :? 8O


Something tells me there are a lot of souls that reincarnated from the holocaust now living - myself included. Which would explain my extreme aversion to screaming, lawnmower/motorcycle/explosions, gas smells and feeling trapped. Also would explain why I feel the closest in experience to survivors of the holocaust and my utter sorrow when I hear about the suffering of humans or animals.

I also tend to think that the nazis of the holocaust also incarnated into livestock animals and that they're now experiencing the worst torments and misery....karma....:/


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03 Nov 2007, 4:49 pm

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Something tells me there are a lot of souls that reincarnated from the holocaust now living - myself included. Which would explain my extreme aversion to screaming, lawnmower/motorcycle/explosions, gas smells and feeling trapped. Also would explain why I feel the closest in experience to survivors of the holocaust and my utter sorrow when I hear about the suffering of humans or animals.

I also tend to think that the nazis of the holocaust also incarnated into livestock animals and that they're now experiencing the worst torments and misery....karma....:/


As someone of German Jewish heritage, I'm almost offended by this nonsense. I love the arrogance of forcing your own questionable spiritual beliefs onto a group of people who had their own, very different beliefs about the soul and the afterlife which is in no way congruent with reincarnation and karma, even to the point of claiming you're one of them. You're as bad as the Mormans baptizing the Holocaust victims by proxy because they are so certain they have the only correct theology that there's no need to respect those victims' own religious beliefs. Get over yourself. This is just some self-delusion to make you feel special and probably overcompensate for your own lack of historical connections and/or feelings of belonging. All your psuedo-spiritualism can't cover up that you're overidentifying with a historical group you wish epitomized your own feelings of alienation or post-trauma adversions. I'm not impressed.

To the OP - people have these feelings all the time. Like jjstar, it's simply psychological over-indentifying with something, and in turn, confusing your own sense of self with whatever you're identifying with. With reflection and objectivity, it can be enlightening, as these experiences often point out our own woundedness or unfulfilled needs - but they are not the supernatural experiences some people claim. Neither you or jjstar present anything that suggest anything "mystical," but rather that both you have weak identities for whatever reason that are easily influenced and blurred by both your own emotional and psychological states and by exterior influences that have emotional or psychological impact of you. Sorry if that's harsh, but there's a reason why the people who most often say things like this are psychologically or emotional compromised by trauma, unfulfilled emotional needs or mental illness, or otherwise highly vulnerable to influences that effect their sense of self.

I'm not being a cynic either - I genuinely believe in the supernatural. But I am a skeptic, because my studies in mysticism and spirituality has taught me that people are ego-centric and self-deluding. That's why the great mystics always teach self-doubt and self-examination. It's not self-abuse, just vigilance against the greatest pitfall of the spiritual life - arrogance.



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03 Nov 2007, 4:51 pm

Aspie Martian,

The thread asked do you sometimes feel...

Yes. I sometimes feel this way and there's really nothing to argue about.


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03 Nov 2007, 6:10 pm

jjstar wrote:
Aspie Martian,

The thread asked do you sometimes feel...

Yes. I sometimes feel this way and there's really nothing to argue about.


Also, if people over identify with some concept or other, what harm is there in that? We are all on a spiritual journey, and many experiences only serve to bring us closer to understanding life, and ourselves.


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03 Nov 2007, 10:29 pm

no. but i get dejavu though, it creeps me out dog. sometimes i get that depersonilization thing happening aswell, sometimes at the same time :(


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04 Nov 2007, 1:45 pm

When I was a teenager, trying to figure out why I was different, I developed a working theory that my soul was meant to be in a dog's body and somehow my dog soul was accidently put into a human's body and somewhere there was a human soul stuck inside of a dog.


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04 Nov 2007, 9:54 pm

Ana54 wrote:
nother life?


I sometimes have dreams that seem like memories. Where I'm walking to school down leafy streets in New York City, from an apartment building, during a time that was probably the 1930s to 1960s. Concentration camp gas chambers gave me a "I can see myself being in there once, and knowing what it was, or at least being in there scared" feeling. The Sachsenhausen concentration camp autopsy room actually looked FAMILIAR, the first time I saw it. Like I'd been THERE before. :? 8O


Ana,

I too have had dreams that I could put together in series that seem to indicate having been another person in another time in another place.

In a way I can relate to your post in that one of those series of dreams I have seem to tell a tale of somebody and something about W.W. II and the Resistance that campaigned against Hitler's regime and sabotaged its efforts in various underhanded ways. Those dreams have come to me in their every detail and colour including whatever town I happen to be dreaming about is all in ruins from bombing raids. Whoever that person was whose shoes I'm in dreaming about being in and whatever that life was, it ended violently in an Allied bombing raid. Although I've never seen any of Europe in this currant lifetime so far, I did have the name "Biberach" come up in one of those dreams.

A check of the map showed Biberach to be a town in the south of Germany, in the Wurttemburg district, close to the French border. History does recall the Wurttemburg district as being the most vigorously opposed to Hitler's regime and that a Resistance organization made up of mostly Wurttemburgers operated out of nearby northeastern France during W.W. II.

Whatever those dreams mean, I can't give any reasonable explanation.

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04 Nov 2007, 11:26 pm

Since Aspies feel such affinities to animals and if there is anything to this reincarnation business perhaps Aspies are reincarnated animals. Since there are more people alive today than ever before perhaps the system ran out of people to be reincarnated and is using animals. I keep having flying dreams so I suspect I am a reincarnated seagull. I do like to eat fish.



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04 Nov 2007, 11:42 pm

I keep dreaming that I'm running away from cats. I guess that means that I was a rat.


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05 Nov 2007, 12:37 am

I keep dreaming the most random stuff ever in my dreams. Maybe I was the guy played by Scott Bakula in quantum leap...



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05 Nov 2007, 11:57 am

Maybe it's our own feelings of not fitting in. I often think that I don't belong in this time period. Especially when it comes to shoes. Adore vintage shoes, jewelry, and clothes. Makes me think that some other memory is lurking back there that today's brain can't access.

I get a lot of deja vu experiences as well.


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