AS and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead...

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23 Nov 2007, 8:34 pm

I know this might seem random, but has anyone read Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard? It made me think about Asperger's...

Some of the play's ideas are:

1. Everyone is acting - just as it seems everyone in the world is putting on an act, and if you have AS, sometimes you may feel the need to put on an NT act to get by in the world.

Also, there's a part of the play in which an actor describes death scenes, and how once an actor doing a death scene ACTUALLY died onstage, but nobody believed it. The audience believed the fake deaths more than they believed the real death; the real death seemed like "bad acting." - While people with AS may tell the truth more than NTs (though not necessarily, of course), their truth-telling may seem like "bad acting" because everyone else's acting has become reality...

2. Logic doesn't always seem logical/maybe truth doesn't exist - Social situations are played by "rules" that people with AS cannot always follow, b/c the logic is warped. Also, there comes a point when I must stop trying to find out the truth about people, because I realize I'll never find it!



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23 Nov 2007, 10:48 pm

Adrie wrote:
I know this might seem random, but has anyone read Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard? It made me think about Asperger's...

Some of the play's ideas are:

1. Everyone is acting - just as it seems everyone in the world is putting on an act, and if you have AS, sometimes you may feel the need to put on an NT act to get by in the world.

Also, there's a part of the play in which an actor describes death scenes, and how once an actor doing a death scene ACTUALLY died onstage, but nobody believed it. The audience believed the fake deaths more than they believed the real death; the real death seemed like "bad acting." - While people with AS may tell the truth more than NTs (though not necessarily, of course), their truth-telling may seem like "bad acting" because everyone else's acting has become reality...

2. Logic doesn't always seem logical/maybe truth doesn't exist - Social situations are played by "rules" that people with AS cannot always follow, b/c the logic is warped. Also, there comes a point when I must stop trying to find out the truth about people, because I realize I'll never find it!


What I loved best about R&GAD is that Stoppard saw the totally underdeveloped charactors of R&G and imaged what they would be doing when they had been summoned to Elsinor but weren't part of the main action. They reminded me of how people with AS cope, grabbing bits and clues from those people in the front of the castle, living with no family nor connections nor much past.

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24 Nov 2007, 12:01 am

I thought when that play started, they were dead already. They just didn't know it.

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24 Nov 2007, 12:04 am

beentheredonethat wrote:
I thought when that play started, they were dead already. They just didn't know it.

Btdt


I've felt like that


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24 Nov 2007, 3:12 pm

I know this sounds absurd, but because the only way in which I function is to apply logic (ie, like a robot governed by specific programs) I apply logic to things that are not illogical. I can predict or accept that people are irrational by simply knowing they are irrational, and will act in ways I might not consider or understand. If somebody does something irrational, I won't need to spend time pondering why they did it in a logical light; it makes no sense whatsoever, and wasn't meant to be analyzed that way. I just need to know that they did something irrational because they are irrational, and you can most likely blame it on their emotions.


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