AS as Form of Narcissism

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Do you think AS is a form of narcissism?

I'd say narcissism is a product of AS.

indeed, AS as a form of narcissism sounds like a poppycock

maybe the other way around...

I agree with both of you. I am in fact a mirror narcissist, in that I think the sun shines out of the other and not me. For me to have a bit of the narcissist cultivated would be a positive thing.

Personal narcissism perhaps, but if someone claims we're malignant narcissists that engineer social structures to boost our self-image, then you really must object, we're absolutely not like that. Hence, we don't harm other people with how we view ourselves.

I know I come off Narcissistic every time I go out in public and interact, and I mean every time, I come home scarred by the experience by things that only seem to happen to me, so, I choose to stay at home, and as a result, I'm all wrapped up with myself for lack of anything ELSE to be wrapped up with. Narcissism is about loving yourself above everyone else, though, and the behaviors stem from that love. I struggle to love myself, so it can't be Narcissism. From the outside, however, nobody can tell the difference -- except that a Narcissist can be charismatic when they need to.

My father probably has narcissistic personality disorder, so maybe a few genetic components got hardwired into me.

Here is a essay which distinguishes between narcissism and AS:

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal72.html

No way. AS has too many traits that have nothing to do with narcissism or even social issues. It's a much broader thing, and neurological rather than psychological.

I once was diagnosed narcissist and schizoid by the same psychiatrist. He never mentionned AS, and I was not aware of it back then. To me those two personnality disorders combined together really sound like asperger syndrome. Not that they are equally the same, but an aspie is most likely to show up some similarities with those two disorders.

i think to myself about myself and my life all damn day... unless someone interrupts me

Autism can involve not understanding social situations.

Narcissism involves not caring about other people.

Totally different. Even found in studies to be different.

I think people with AS are more inclined to develop NPD, especially the ones who are more severely mind blind and experienced abuse. People don't usually develop a personality disorder without some triggering factor (abuse, neglect, etc.).

I've personally been around someone who displayed traits of both. AS and NPD are not mutually exclusive. To say so would be like saying people with AS can't develop depression.

People with NPD think that they care about people, they just don't understand what the concept of caring actually means. What you're describing sounds more like a sociopath/psychopath.

I am the opposite. I often focus on what others are doing, and the focus is virtually never on me at those times. In fact, there had been times where my own needs suffered because I was so concerned about what someone else was doing.

Tim

No, sociopath is having no conscience, narcissism I meant more like extreme selfishness, which involves not caring about people, but doesn't have to involve not having a conscience, just a very warped perception of one's conscience.