Would You Feel Better Knowing it Was a Brain Lesion?

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12 Dec 2007, 8:04 am

Specifically the area of the Amygdala, specifically the lesions being caused by a lack of neuron activity, caused initially by trauma - i.e. losing somehow the opportunity to develop mirroring neuorns. This article might put some things in perspective for you. It is not easy to read and might be somewhat unsettling for you as it could possibly blow the cover off of many of your preconceived notions about what autism/social impairment is and its causes. Do not let the title offend you it is what the author chose to bring home his theory - http://www.brainmind.com/Case6.html


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12 Dec 2007, 8:55 am

How does it really matter how we got here? My life as a baby might not have been too different from kazinski's(I imagine I was isolated a bit, etc...), except I was a good kid, and not THAT non-responsive, etc... Also, such damage can't be inherited.



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12 Dec 2007, 9:15 am

Why does anything matter? It matters if you care about your history enough to differentiate between fact and lie, distortion and reality, fantasy and what is actually going on. And what is going on is entire generations lied to, abused and kicked to the curb because of human frailties and such frailties were frowned on by churches and governments and in the quest to conform to impossible standards the lives of millions of children were systematically pulverized to the core. And in understanding the mechanisms of the how's, we get to the why's and through the why's we can get to the undoing.


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12 Dec 2007, 9:19 am

The idea that autism is caused by "cold" parents is no longer valid, you know.


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12 Dec 2007, 9:33 am

SilverProteus wrote:
The idea that autism is caused by "cold" parents is no longer valid, you know.


No, actually I don't know. And neither does anyone else in this era of uncertainty, hypothesis and conjecture. All anyone has is their own experience - the only basis that is 100% real and untainted by hype.


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12 Dec 2007, 3:38 pm

The "refrigerator mother" hypothesis is a load of crap


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12 Dec 2007, 3:42 pm

Well, my parents were never cold in the slightest, and I wasn't ever seperated from them so erm...



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12 Dec 2007, 3:49 pm

Lesions are a physical malformation, and maybe that would be easier to find a cure for. On the other hand, lesions sound kind of scary, like they are very similar to tumors.



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12 Dec 2007, 4:08 pm

The Amygdala and Development of the Social Brain

DAVID SKUSE, JOHN MORRIS AND KATE LAWRENCE

Behavioural and Brain Sciences Unit, Institute of Child Health, London, United Kingdom

Address for correspondence: David Skuse, M.D., FRCP, Institute of Child Health, Behavioral and Brain Sciences Unit, 30 Guilford St., London, UK WC1N 1EH. Voice: +44 20 7831 0975; fax: +44 20 7831 7050. [email protected]
Ann. N.Y. Acad. Sci. 1008: 91-101 (2003).

The amygdala comprises part of an extended network of neural circuits that are critically involved in the processing of socially salient stimuli. Such stimuli may be explicitly social, such as facial expressions, or they may be only tangentially social, such as abstract shapes moving with apparent intention relative to one another. The coordinated interplay between neural activity in the amygdala and other brain regions, especially the medial prefrontal cortex, the occipitofrontal cortex, the fusiform gyrus, and the superior temporal sulcus, allows us to develop social responses and to engage in social behaviors appropriate to our species. The harmonious functioning of this integrated social cognitive network may be disrupted by congenital or acquired lesions, by genetic anomalies, and by exceptional early experiences. Each form of disruption is associated with a slightly different outcome, dependent on the timing of the experience, the location of the lesion, or the nature of the genetic anomaly. Studies in both humans and primates concur; the dysregulation of basic emotions, especially the processing of fear and anger, is an almost invariable consequence of such disruption. These, in turn, have direct or indirect consequences for social behavior.

http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/content/a ... /1008/1/91


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12 Dec 2007, 4:13 pm

hyperbolic wrote:
Lesions are a physical malformation, and maybe that would be easier to find a cure for. On the other hand, lesions sound kind of scary, like they are very similar to tumors.



They're wounds and scarrings causing the disconnects and atrophy of neurons and the transmitters around them.

As long as the brain/mind remains unhealed the lesions remain. When healing transpires the lesions transform into new pathways and are resurrected. The lesions are healed.


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12 Dec 2007, 4:33 pm

I read the first past of that link and it seems like a very unusual case story, I doubt that many people here will relate to it.

I was thinking earlier today - I could read a different autism conspiracy story every day for my whole life, but how useful is it really?



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12 Dec 2007, 4:55 pm

A brain lesion can be a brain tumor and/or the damage surrounding the tumor, whether malignant or benign. I've had two.

http://rad.usuhs.mil/rad/location/location_frame.html



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12 Dec 2007, 5:03 pm

YowlingCat wrote:
A brain lesion can be a brain tumor and/or the damage surrounding the tumor, whether malignant or benign. I've had two.

http://rad.usuhs.mil/rad/location/location_frame.html


Sorry to hear that. Bummer. I hope you are ok now....
If it's a tumor, why do they call it a lesion? Becausr of the flattened shape and the way it lies flat?


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12 Dec 2007, 5:07 pm

sarahstilettos wrote:
I read the first past of that link and it seems like a very unusual case story, I doubt that many people here will relate to it.

I was thinking earlier today - I could read a different autism conspiracy story every day for my whole life, but how useful is it really?


Well, whichever story you claim as your own, the fact remains constant throughout the spectrum that something traumatic - inner or outer occurred during the ages of 0-3 to induce atrophy of certain areas of the brain. Like snowflakes and fingerprints, no two autistic cases are ever identical.


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12 Dec 2007, 5:12 pm

I'm getting better every day, thanks!

Lesion is just a very general term for injury. Skin lesions (cancers, scars, etc.), brain lesions (tumors, MS, etc.), tooth lesions (cavities).

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art ... lekey=4135



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12 Dec 2007, 5:13 pm

jjstar wrote:
sarahstilettos wrote:
I read the first past of that link and it seems like a very unusual case story, I doubt that many people here will relate to it.

I was thinking earlier today - I could read a different autism conspiracy story every day for my whole life, but how useful is it really?


Well, whichever story you claim as your own, the fact remains constant throughout the spectrum that something traumatic - inner or outer occurred during the ages of 0-3 to induce atrophy of certain areas of the brain. Like snowflakes and fingerprints, no two autistic cases are ever identical.


How can you verify that?