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10 Nov 2010, 10:58 am

Just came across this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/09 ... rk_autism/

Not even sure what it's all about, I will read it properly later.
I'm in the middle of making some music right now.
And chatting to all of you.
Which is fun.
In a funny kind of way.


Anyway, maybe someone will find it interesting and tell me what it's about.
I must admit the Register goes over my head a lot of the time.
Even though I'm quite 'techy' myself.

I laugh when they call people that download free films and music 'Freetards'.

Not that it's that funny, but you know?

Maybe it's because I had a g/f that would call me an f'ing ret*d for the entire
weekend and then go back to work. A bit of a nervous laugh maybe.

Anyway. I'll shut up now.
I'm particularly chatty because I have been awake for over 48 hours, onto
the next cycle and still not tired.


Hope you like the article anyway ;-)

Am I allowed to post a link to some of my music, or would you consider it a bit
'spammy'?

I don't even post links to my music on a Producers forum that I go to, and
am quite 'well known' on. I will eventually, but not yet...

I don't sell my music, I just give it away.
I suppose that makes me a bit of a real Freetard doesn't it? LOL
I never looked at it that way.
I even amuse myself sometimes.

Sorry if I've bored you...


I really don't know which way people will take me, so this is just me
dipping my toe into the water. Most of you seem like a nice bunch of
people though.

Ok back to work..



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10 Nov 2010, 11:15 am

Ah that reminds me, the reason why I posted here was because the main
sound in my track is called: 'ASpyThing'. I think it means a Spy Thing, whatever
that means, but for a while there I forgot I was Autistic.
It even sounds funny saying it. Maybe I'm not. Maybe everyone is.
I suppose you could say I think therefore I am confused...

Oh and I forgot to mention that every time I have tried to talk about it with
my family, they have fallen stone cold silent and stopped speaking and
talking for an eternity, the poor things are horrified, Ironically I think they
think there is something seriously wrong with me LOL....


Again, it's not funny, but.......I'm sure some of you have been through worse.
My family love me and I am lucky to have them. It is a bond that goes
beyond words..So maybe this xmas I will just spare them and shut my
big mouth.

Something I'm getting the feeling I should do here as well ;-)


Ah well, it's been fun chatting!



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10 Nov 2010, 11:38 am

Mmm.. interesting article on a few different levels. I've bookmarked it for
later, but not sure I'll bother, if it's saying what I think it is.
But I'm not even sure what that is seeing how frazzled tired I am.

It's ok to make music and 'chat', but logical thought and analysis
are slightly beyond me at this point.

Strange coincidence though, I was mentioning twitter in another thread here.
I just saw it and responded before I posted the article that I had yet to read.

I didn't know Zuckerberg was autistic.
Labels, I suppose we need them, just like signposts on the streets.
But we all still get lost sometimes in spite of them.

And that's ok too.
As long as you find yourself again at some point.
Or we find each other.
Or the chipshop we've never been to before that has just opened
up and we have heard 'Is very good!'

And then on a bad day we lose our car keys as well!
But no one ever loses their chips, do they?

Probably someone has managed it.


My track just finished rendering.
And I know exactly what I'm going to call it:
"It's A Spy Thing".

Whatever that means...
Perfect.



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10 Nov 2010, 1:09 pm

Thanks for the link; I was glad to read the article, even though I think much of the premise of it is ridiculous.

Yes, Web 2.0 does tend to oversimplify many things - but that is exactly what I see the NT world doing!

My AS brain sees everything as so individual, I can overcomplicate anything.

People are unhappy with Web 2.0, so rather than admit it is the logical extension of the standardised world they have created, where you "fit in" or are crushed, they decide to blame it on the people who don't fit in, and slap the label 'autistic' on it. I don't have any idea whether or not Mark Zuckerberg is autistic or not - but even if he is, that does not mean Facebook is a reflection of his personality. Many other people have worked on it, it was developed to appeal to its users - and society expects standardisation.


On other matters:
The title of your music sounds interesting. :wink: Not sure what I'd think of it otherwise; I tend to have very strong reactions to music, one way or the other. Which has nothing to do with how talented the creator is, it is just the fact it has such a strong effect on me.

Not sure I have the hyper-energy to answer much more of what you've said here, but you seem like a pretty cool guy. You haven't annoyed me at all. :) Although I only speak for myself, I don't know of anyone else you've annoyed.


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10 Nov 2010, 1:17 pm

(Paraphrase) Web 2.0 as exemplified by Facebook is crap because it reduces the people who use it into very simple versions of themselves, and it does that because Mr. Zuckerberg built Facebook in order to try and understand humans, and autistic people cannot 'see' individuality, apparently.

It's a bit mixed up.


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10 Nov 2010, 1:41 pm

Moog wrote:
It's a bit mixed up.


It is typical sloppy thinking. Find something different about someone - or something that might be different, since I don't see Mark Zuckerberg hanging around here :lol: - and blame everything they do on that difference.

And I still think the real reason for Facebook's design is due to society's emphasis on standardising everything. Formal education, especially, seeks to standardise the process of learning - so why wouldn't we expect a service that was originally developed in a bastion of formal education to show the influence of the system it was created within?


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10 Nov 2010, 1:50 pm

Is it sloppy, or deliberate perception management?

From what I've read here, a great many autistic folk don't even like Facebook.


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10 Nov 2010, 1:52 pm

Moog wrote:
Is it sloppy, or deliberate perception management?

From what I've read here, a great many autistic folk don't even like Facebook.


I hate Facebook. Unless they have changed it A LOT since I first tried it, it was an ugly, clunky mess.



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10 Nov 2010, 2:09 pm

Moog wrote:
Is it sloppy, or deliberate perception management?


God, that's a very scary question. If anyone is actually, deliberately seeking to generate negative perceptions of us - and I don't rule that out, considering what I know of the eugenics movement - then we need to figure out a way to fight them. I'm not talking about violence, either. I'm talking about engaging in our own perception management.

Actually, the more I think of it, the more I'm ashamed of myself for not considering the possibility. I guess I just can't stand believing I live in such a world unless I have to. But perhaps I do have to. If anyone ever "comes for me", it isn't going to be because I sat back and waited for them.

Moog wrote:
From what I've read here, a great many autistic folk don't even like Facebook.


I know I find it pretty pointless at best.


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10 Nov 2010, 2:15 pm

theWanderer wrote:
Moog wrote:
Is it sloppy, or deliberate perception management?


God, that's a very scary question. If anyone is actually, deliberately seeking to generate negative perceptions of us - and I don't rule that out, considering what I know of the eugenics movement - then we need to figure out a way to fight them. I'm not talking about violence, either. I'm talking about engaging in our own perception management.

Actually, the more I think of it, the more I'm ashamed of myself for not considering the possibility. I guess I just can't stand believing I live in such a world unless I have to. But perhaps I do have to. If anyone ever "comes for me", it isn't going to be because I sat back and waited for them.


Hmm, sorry to jolt you like that. I'd relax though, the mainstream media has been negatively shaping the minds of humans since... well, a long time.

If it makes you feel better, it is my belief that people do negative things for good reasons, even the most heinous crimes you can think of. I believe that everyone is motivated by a desire for happiness, but some (many, or most) people have a wrong understanding of what happiness is and how to achieve it.

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From what I've read here, a great many autistic folk don't even like Facebook.


I know I find it pretty pointless at best.


I think it's quite interesting, but I'm weird.


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10 Nov 2010, 2:17 pm

Moog wrote:
Hmm, sorry to jolt you like that. I'd relax though, the mainstream media has been negatively shaping the minds of humans since... well, a long time.


And look how that's turned out... :P


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10 Nov 2010, 2:23 pm

I don't understand it, even though I have Asperger's myself (with a possible co-morbidity with Adult ADD; have to be taken off medication for a while to figure it out). To figure out people, I don't need to simplify others' thoughts; I have to make it even more complex, more long, and more psuedo-eloquent to get other people. If it's simple, I don't really get the person. I don't even get why people call this Zuckerburg person autistic if more NT's seem to fawn over it.



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13 Nov 2010, 2:30 pm

Thanks for the food for thought.
Well I'm not surprised at all that a lot of autistic people don't like facebook/twitter..
etc. etc.. it stands to common sense if you have problems interfacing on a
standard level of operation = you are gonna be pretty head/ucked when it
comes to that level of BS.

but i bet some people really get off on it and prove my theory wrong.

I don't care either way.

I learnt something from posting this.

The pain/gain ratio was a bit high.
But... we'll see...


Let me just give one more thing before i go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDlt4QSDRY&NR=1


time to float back down to earth...


love to all.