The baiting trolls on Autism Speaks message board.

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I have to tell myself not to look at Autism Speaks Message boards. My ban was lifted today. I was banned from there for a week. It was the best week I have had for months. There are always new users there cropping up with baiting questions and it is almost imposible for me not to respond to them. I feel my urge to respond rising. During my ban it was easy. I couldn'tespond. It was great. There was this new user today with four posts with a horrible image of himself. He is supposedly HFA. I wanted to reach out this person to help, or tell him to go to hell. Either one. I just know this person is not for real. I can be a real sucker sometimes. I tell you what. I am going to try my hardest not to look at that message board again.

In most case, if the moderator were inexperienced and don't know how forum work. They can even do other Moderator jobs when they belong in their own spots.

Not every moderators does a good job.

I done moderating before so I know that I have to referee my best. Not to mentions, participating in a sensitive forum when they have no clues but butting into something that they lack judgement on. One forum made one person like a idol, it not my fault that I can't agree with her protest that kind of way out of park. If someone were waving a hate sign, do I have to respect that? On the other hand, I have controlled my tongues by not saying language or racist comments.

I almost got banned from Aspie Hangout on Delphi forums. After a forum member warned me that one of my posts was "about to get me in hot water", I ran off the forum. I try to avoid blowing off steam on WP cuz I don't wanna chance getting banned from this site. I've met a few Aspie signers here and I've shared my experiences with the Signing Community. WP has been THE BEST site for Aspies I ever joined and I DON'T wanna ruin the relationships I've built here.

I had similar experiences with so-called "trolls" on DBSocial ListServ, which is an email discussion list for Deaf-Blind people and other people interested in meeting the Deaf-Blind. I was a member of that list 3 times - the first time was in January 2004, the second time in January 2007, and the third time in September 2007. The third time the moderator and another non-Deaf-Blind list member basically said many list members are very bothered by my symptoms and refuse to tolerate them. So I had to run off the list and stop myself every time I think about joining it again.

I recommend that you not even read the posts over there. I read those posts. It's hard to tell if it's real. It's kind of over the top with self-hatred, but I don't know, it could be real. The thing is there's too much you don't know about a person like that who just showed up, if you knew the person for a long time it might be appropriate to offer some kind of help, but I think over all you need to watch out for yourself first and not get involved too much. In that case since I couldn't tell if the person was for real or not I just decided to ignore it.... like you can't take all the problems of the world on your shoulders... He had been given some pretty good advice already from what I saw (like don't kill yourself, that's a bad idea), which is about all anyone could say to him anyway. Unless you have the legal right to commit him for his own safety... which you don't....

You also don't want to chew him out for talking hatefully in case he's really sad and desperate. That's my thought on it anyway... and I'm trying to stay away from that board, too. It's way too ugly as long as the harpie brigade is active.

it just seems to me that people search hard for acceptance and when they don't get it its easy to blame a thing like AS or Autism instead of the real problems behind it. They fail at one or 2 social situations so its easy to say if Ididn't have it I would have succeed or this or that would be better for me. Personally I try to offer my advice who really knows if anyone takes me seriously but I offer advice what they chose to do with it is up to them. People are unhappy they make their reality and because things are not gonig their way they say life sucks then they fall into a hole of creating self furfilling prophecies. They attempt things that are difficult and when they fail its not that they have to train more or do something to change it its the AS.

It reminds me of this time when I went to a forest retreat physical camp like thing for a 6th grade trip I believe it was. We did this mountain climbing thing I fell off 3 times on first try and couldn't make it up past 25%. I was pissed and frustrated I'm competitive with myself I'm not big on letting that go. So Everyday I woke up at 6am so I had extra time so I could go in their gym facility I asked one of the staff to open the mountain climbing thng even if she didn't volunteer I was preparing to go without support. I did that for the whole week long trip. Last day I went there I was like I've trained for this and I'm not letting it go. I got to the top... so then I sat there looking down ... I was like whats next...?


I could have blamed my fingers, my lack of muscle, my lack of ability, my lack of coordination but I wouldn't accept that I'm Brandon Ruiz and I'm not going to let a little thnig like a wall with hand grips stop me. I was prepared to do whatever I could to pass that obstacle and I do that with every obstacle that passes my way. I love life cause its constantly challenging and I find that no matter the differences in ability my biggest competition is my self and whther or not I have AS (I most likely do) I'm not letting it be a crutch cause I got great things waiting for me and only thing that can stop me from reaching them is me.

So morale of the lnog winded story is most people get a diagnosis and they have a crutch they use it to support themselves because of their inner fear of being incapable but with the crutch its alright because they have a reason. The parents don't want to accept something out of society's norms is a good thing because they are defeating that the kid is truly an individual they want them to be another carbon copy. Well if people are fine with being carbon copies cool because I'm really not. So don't post don't enable them if they are getting you mad if they are faking it'll come out eventually if they put you down who cares? Just be you and help people into knowing that they can be themselves without the mask.

Wow!! Abangyarudo great post !

I admire your determination. I have fallen down a lot in life but try to get up and face challenges. I was told I have a lot of tenacity that I just keep going and don't give up then eventually get there.
If I think about a task then I think I can't do it but then I think 'if other people can do this then I should be able to', that is what got me the motivation to learn to drive (that was hard).

Just a few years ago I was unemployed and quite a mess but I picked myself up and am now one of the top in my field. It took me twice as long to get a degree and PhD as it does most people but I got there in the end.

I hope you have success in the future and keep positive, it is inspiring for the rest of us.

I think this was genuine, Darwin.

I am of the view that the hate that people like this Zarbon feel about themselves has been imprinted on them by bad experiences. Without bad experiences you have little if anything to hate. So there must be a large amount of negative experience there that he is not talking about.

The key therefore is dealing with that experience as best as possible. Because we don't know what it was that's impossible to do, but it's what is needed.

Zarbon got rid of the opening post, but it was quoted by Spydyee and she hit the nail on the head when she said;

I think that message got to Zarbon and he realised all was not lost. Hopefully.

I am not going to post on Autism Speaks anymore. I have trouble discerning the difference between trolls, and genuine posters. It is easier for me to avoid suspicious threads here that on that board. There is nothing on Autism Speaks message boards that interests me anymore. My words fall on deaf ears. My analogies are torn apart. My humor is wasted.It stresses me out. I makes me angry. I am very happy with wrong planet.

TLPG, Thank you for your quote from Spydee. It is exactly how I feel!

Good to know you're happier here. Enjoy it.

I just went and read the thread in question and to me this person looks like a complete troll. He/She knows every buzz word and button to push. If this were a real autistic, in real pain, looking for real help, he/she would consider what everyone is saying, even if a little bit. He certainly would not metion the "cure question" right off the bat. He wouldn't argue every point with people who are offering heartfelt repsonses.

Just my impression, but it reeks of troll to me.

I am glad, too, that you feel more at home here.

Thanks LBP. That troll was probably a drive by poster anyway. I just went to that message board. Ewww. I am going to go there again to bump up Spubduh, and make and official announcement, on from el presidente, who is now you BTW, because I am resigning my position. Sorry, if this sounds weird to some people. Spubduh was this on going joke I started a while back. It was the Society for the Prevention of Beating Dead Horses. We had a lot of fun with that. It really made some people angry as well. People don't seem to beat dead horses as much on WP message boards, so it may not be necessary for me to bring Spubduh here. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this. If anyone sees dead horses being beaten here, let me know by PM, and I will see what i can do about it.

Than again, maybe I was too hasty in my judgement.....


http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/forums/showthread.php?t=3937

Zarbon, to me looks like it could be one of the better known trolls. By posing as an aggressive ASD person he might be deliberately giving the locals a chance to get all upset at the "aggressive ASD person". Sammy got all quiet and then Zarbon comes on the scene. Another JBJr sock puppet seems to have figured out the rules of spelling or figured out how to use a spellchecker... I suppose Zarbon with get kicked off for "shouting".

Zarbon, to me looks like it could be one of the better known trolls. By posing as an aggressive ASD person he might be deliberately giving the locals a chance to get all upset at the "aggressive ASD person". Sammy got all quiet and then Zarbon comes on the scene. Now they are talking to each other.... hmmm. Yeah, I think they are two sock puppets having a blast arguing stupidly and clumsily with each other. I suppose Zarbon with get kicked off for "shouting". Someone should ask sammy what he thinks of JBjr's plan to have a law passed so that anyone who questions the vaccine/causation thing will be euthanized.

I signed up and posted. If you are still "participating" there, I left a post at the end of that.. page four when I finished.