Heres something for you UFO and SETI fans.

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30 Aug 2005, 10:51 pm

Heres something for you UFO and SETI fans.

What sort of patterns do scientists working on the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) project look for?

http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_question ... 414B7F0000

Peter R. Backus, observing programs manager at the SETI Institute, explains.
SETI scientists do not look for patterns but rather a lack of patterns in a signal. Although this may seem puzzling, it’s really a matter of physics. The first challenge facing any SETI project is detecting a signal against the background of cosmic and terrestrial noise. A signal containing a great deal of information will be spread across the spectrum more than a very simple signal containing little information would be. An "informative" signal will look more like random noise and thus will be harder to detect. So, in SETI, we look for very simple signals, ones that are easy to distinguish from astrophysical sources.

Natural radio sources like quasars and pulsars are "broadband," meaning they emit over a broad range of frequencies. Communication signals may also be broadband but may contain components that are very narrow and easy to distinguish. For example, an analog TV signal spans about six MHz but contains two carrier signals (video and audio) that are less than one Hz wide. These carrier signals are much narrower than the narrowest known astrophysical source. Therefore, SETI programs searching in the radio spectrum look for very narrow bandwidth signals.

Optical SETI (OSETI) programs must detect a laser signal against the glare of ET’s star. The best way for a laser to outshine a star is to do so very quickly, in a very short pulse lasting less than a billionth of a second. OSETI programs thus measure the light from a star in nanosecond intervals looking for a slight, brief excess of photons that could originate from a powerful pulsed laser.
Once a signal is detected, then the hunt for patterns will begin. The detected signal may be a simple beacon that points the way to an information channel. Scientists have speculated that a binary code, a pattern of ones and zeros, will be used, perhaps containing a symbolic language or pictures. In 1974, at the rededication of the Arecibo Observatory, humans sent a binary-coded picture in the direction of the star cluster M13. The radio signal used two radio frequencies to represent the dark and light pixels of the message. Other message-encoding schemes have been suggested, but in truth, scientists really don’t know what to expect. That is part of what makes SETI so interesting.



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31 Aug 2005, 3:36 am

Interesting Article (as are quite a few that you post up here).

I am disinclined to conflate SETI searches and UFO's though. To my mind, the SETI project is credible and well worthwhile, whereas UFO stuff is anecdotal, unreliable and beset with fictions, fantasy and misdirection.

Obviously I cannot prove that there are no such things as flying saucers. I just think that on balance of probability and given the lack of convincing evidence (not for want of trying!), that UFO stuff is likely to remain speculative and conjectural.



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31 Aug 2005, 9:43 am

adversarial wrote:
Interesting Article (as are quite a few that you post up here).

I am disinclined to conflate SETI searches and UFOs though. To my mind, the SETI project is credible and well worthwhile, whereas UFO stuff is anecdotal, unreliable and beset with fictions, fantasy and misdirection.

Obviously I cannot prove that there are no such things as flying saucers. I just think that on balance of probability and given the lack of convincing evidence (not for want of trying!), that UFO stuff is likely to remain speculative and conjectural.


Thanks, I am trying to find things of interest in the news that people would like to read that also interest's me, although not all the subjects I been posting interest me.

But your right I shouldn't have related SETI and UFO in one sentence, for although UFO fans generally take an interest in SETI programs as well, not all SETI enthusiasts take an interest in UFOs.