IQ testing in AS "sufferers"

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Does the AS affect the result, and if so, is there a more accurate test than the IQ test for people with AS?

If they had a more accurate test of IQ, then THAT would be the IQ test! What are you really asking? BTW, IQ isn't the sole determinant.

I mean, would having AS bias the answers lower, or perhaps higher?

I know what you mean about the IQ test, but I'm about as clear as mud with my words at the minute

I meant "is there a better test of intelligence tailored to aspies?"

Because of things like autism, they split the IQ into various parts. AS people usually are poor in a couple that(Interpersonal, and physical), thankfully, are really rarely tested. They are SUPPOSED to, and usually do, test high in 2 others that ARE tested(verbal and spatial). The others(math,logic) are a tossup, but AS people are SUPPOSED to test about normal or higher.

The 'typical" IQ test given is usually the Wechsler which has a large component of verbal instruction. Depending on the degree of your Asperger's, or other Autism Spectrum Disorder, you may score lower on this test because of the difficulty in understanding and applying verbal instruction. There are other tests. In Canada, I believe, they have been using the Raven IQ test which is primarily non-verbal instruction. Typically, people severely autistic would score quite low on a Wechsler. The Canadian's were finding that those same individual's often tested in the normal or gifted range on the Raven test. The one published study I was able to find required a high cost paid subscription as well as professional credentials to access. I can't give you hard numbers, but it was outlined in Newsweek a few months back.

When I took the wechsler I scored pretty well (90th percentile) in most categories, but in one or two did quite horribly (20th percentile) which dragged down the overall considerably.

So it was pretty clear there were some deficiencies, possibly related to the AS...

I got 126. 128 being World Mensa (top 2%). 145 being Einstein. I don't know the name of that test.

I've taken the test at a few different phases in my life and it seems to stay steady. But I've never gone back to learn the questions that I didn't know. And was always a bit bewildered by the scores because I tended to fail and excel in equal proportions.

On my first 'SAT' then called "CAT" I was a failing student but I passed and got pulled into the office because I scored 3rd in the school on memorizing series of numbers (ie liscence plates). I kind of felt like a lab rat under the microscope or punished. They were just so surprised. I wanted to run away and hide.

I also only scored a 74 or 76 on my military entrance exam. Which is VERY good. It was lower than my aim though.

I got a 124.

I can't take an IQ test. I'm too busy suffering with AS.

suffer, suffer, suffer, ...

I wasn't sure what to put...aspie? I'm worried that I'm overusing the word, and I don't like how it sounds. Sorry.

I think I did well on understanding the math. I am about half and half, parts of me should not be allowed to cross the street alone.

I still came out with a uselessly high number. Since it is a combined score, and I split it, I have half an IQ of 70 and half of 204.

Most is in Spatial Relationships/logic which cannot be put in words.

My slow and bad handwriting was what was really tested in math and verbal.

A long as I do not have to deal with people, speak, write, I am great.

So I find the test to be no predictor of Aspie outcomes.

I was judged to be both too ret*d to benefit from education, and too smart to be trusted.

It was used to end my formal education at 14. They washed their hands of the problem.

I was kicked out of life for having a bad slow hand writing.

If I had been allowed to use a typewriter, the outcome would have been much different.

The psychology priest that ended my life insisted that it was a standard test and had to be done with a #2 pencil.

If I had no hands it would still have to be done with a #2 pencil, for it was part of the psychobabble religion.

They should be extirminated. Their lies have caused much suffering.

They are not medicine, they have no science, they are nothing but a religion that holds them to be god.

Jihad!

I was told that Aspies usually score high on verbal tests, because of their AS and low on performance IQ for the same reason.

In wonder whether this is true for adults also?

People with Kanner's Autism are said to score higher on the performance IQ, but low when it comes to verbal test parts.

I know parents who were amazed that their children scored about 20+ points higher on the general IQ, just because they started processing language better and thus were able to answer the questions of the IQ test with a couple of words and of course understand the instructions better.


I took an IQ test once and decided IQ tests certainly don't have anything to do with everyday life for me, nope.

When I was tested in high school my Verbal IQ was 135 (2 standard deviations above average) while my Performance IQ was 98 (pretty much averageaverage). I was told that my verbal score more closely matched my actual mental abilities.

Not That I really care, I think a lot of IQ is a load of bunk and the associated notion of g, a supposed "generalized intelligence factor," is a statistical artifact. That is, of course, not to say there isn't a large variability in people's mental abilities, but in my opinion averaging these abilities out into a single number oversimplifies things and is only good for testing for mental retardation and some basic child development stuff.

I had a very high IQ as a child, something that was either low above-average or high average in my teens, and something that's alternately described as low average or high borderline as an adult. I attribute this to:

1. Gaining early some talents that impress people in young children, but not having those areas progress as much as most people would. (Getting them almost fully-formed early on, rather than slowly getting them over years, in other words. This is how things generally work for musical prodigies, too -- they are good "for a child" early in life, but don't progress as much so by adulthood they're not necessarily any good at all.)

2. Gaining other talents later on that may have been more important (to my brain anyway, for whatever reason) than the stuff that makes people good at most areas of IQ tests, and having those things crowd the other things out in terms of what I was learning (and therefore losing or losing access to a few things).

In every single one of the tests my scores were extremely uneven. (For instance, in my last Wechsler test, which is the only one I have access to the subtest information on anymore, my subtests ranged from, I think, 4 (severely impaired) to 12 or 13 (high average). Which is like having different parts of an IQ range from 69 or lower to somewhere in the 110-119 range. My verbal and performance scores were nearly the same (performance slightly higher, I think), but that was both from averaging extremely different scores among the subtests.)

Wow and there the women who did the test with me actually claimed my scores ranging from 13 to 18 also in a wechsler presented a very uneven profile already.

I figured this IQ number of mine had to be low average, 90-ish perhaps taking from everyday life and how I do in school. In the test though I got results that even meant top scores, but there is nothing of that seen in my everyday life, least in school. I don't take any of these so-called professional tests seriously, whatever they measure, it's not anything that can possibly be important or useful.

NLD, and I believe AS as well, is characterized by large differences in ability. My performance subtest scores on the WISC-III ranged from 10-13 (performance IQ was 108), and my verbal subtest scores ranged from 17-19 (verbal IQ was 147). Quite a large difference, meaning that my combined IQ score (including performance and verbal scores) is useless, as it doesn't accurately reflect either my verbal or my nonverbal abilities. A performance-verbal difference of over 10 points is considered to make the combined score useless- I had a difference of 39 points.