What if NT people had been born AS people and vice versa?

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Hello folks,

I am thecartoonist and I present a stunning saga of an improbable reality:

What if the NT people in the world had received the AS genes and we the AS people had been born as the NT people?

Lately, I've been reflecting on two completely separate instances in the past when different people shouted at me. I know they were both NT people, even though they did not say it.

The instances have reminded me that I too, have been tempted to shout at NTs and I have even carried it out sometimes. It was always a much better thing to do than take out revenge on them.

I am nearly 38, and sadly, I have taken revenge out on some NTs before. I really don't want to go into detail about that, because my parents don't know about some of those times. In one instance, the NTs I took revenge out on did not even know about it.

I believe my point is: The NT world can encourage the concept of taking out revenge on others. Does anyone out there really think we can be as bad as the NT world when it comes to the concept of taking revenge?

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Thecartoonist

I believe that the NT world IS the exact definition of autism.

Attention deficit and hyper active.
Compulsive, obsessed.
Loud, noisy, easily disturbed.
Focused on one or a few topics.
Sometimes brilliant but unable to organize basic tasks.
{sure...years later}
Selective speech and hearing.
Often rude.
Doesn't think before it says things.
Interested in things that make no sense.
Embassassing to be out with.
Attention hog.
Doesn't manage it's money well.
Cares, but it's often hard to tell.
Makes decisions no one under stands without a study and an essay or 12.
Unaware of whose feelings it hurts.
Reclusive and selective of membership.
ect,
Has a me me me attitude when amoung friends.
Responds well when it has recieved some therapy, schooling, medication, or time to grow: depending on whose lens is viewing it.
Must be taught EVERYTHING...doesn't just get the innuendo.
Forms of organization in general do not work.
Afraid to call strangers or knock on doors, because of that one time....the law...and what if.

Its a sloppy reply. My point is that we as aspies appear to be in small what America is in Large. It is definately better than it was in the 80's. That is how I know that there is hope for my aspie country to make friends, have a job, maybe even love and have offspring.


Is this what you meant?

Hi SeaBright,

Thank you for your reply. I think I agree with you that the NT world IS in fact the exact definition of autism. Perhaps that is indeed what I meant.

I am not suggesting that all NT people are evil. I am simply saying that when it comes to establishing a world order, they seem to be wanting to do it.

To add something humorous, let me say that I think if the world were made up solely of AS people alone, there would be many concepts that might never have existed.

Do we need examples? Here they are: Laws, governments, crime, revenge, war, and possibly different religions to name a few.

I am not against the concept of religion. I am merely saying that when I am in my place of worship, I simply find myself going through the motions rather than experiencing the community of people there. As always, I welcome any comments.

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thecartoonist

The human race would have extinguished.

Hi Mw99,

I'm confused by your statement. When you say the human race would have extinguished, do you mean we would have become physically extinct like the dinosaurs?

Or do you mean chaos would have reigned over all living human beings 24/7?

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thecartoonist

That's a pretty stupid statement! I can only assume you mean that the solitude, etc... would have led to it.

Well, I never wanted THAT much solitude, and if my parents wanted more solitude, I probably would have gone out a bit more! If there were more available women, etc... it would have been easier. I may be a bit hard up, but I always had high standards. Unfortunately, they can pretty much have anyone they want, so they aren't available. Even NT women would be FORCED to be less subtle! SO, if all the NTs were AS, even a higher PERCENTAGE of AS people would be married.

You see, AS people aren't necessarily single because of lack of ability or desire(Though I DO keep my desire in check). It is more because we don't have the same way of communicating.

Hi 2ukenkerl,

Since most of we AS people are men (as am I), I suppose we just have to keep the faith when it comes to things like dating and marriage.

I for one know I will be OK if I never get married. The best thing I know to do with women is to offer them compliments, and not be worried if they don't always pick up on them.

Best wishes,
Thecartoonist

I think you're right Seabright. These are exactly the commonly displayed by neuro-typical people a lot of the time.

It seriously makes me wonder why NTs feel the need to project these deficits onto people on the spectrum.

I have an educated intuition that people on the spectrum are

a) vulnerable and defenceless and thus easy targets for such projection, and

b) too honest and naive enough to admit their failings where NTs rarely do.

In my experience there are a relative few NTs who can genuinely display empathy. Oh yes, they can certainly do the mirror neuron/mind-reading stuff in order to benefit themselves or gain an advantage over the other guy - but so rarely do they really, really put themselves out for others to really understand where the other is coming from,

And please, folks, don't start a flame thing about 'not all NTs are the same/you're just getting at NTs again'.

Frankly, I'm rather tired (and literally sick) of my copious experiences of NT callousness and dysfunctions and cognitive disorders. And I'm really tired of us spectrum folks getting daubed with these labels erroneously.

Well, I haven't given that many compliments because I would feel almost like a salesperson.(Assumed to be merely trying to get a sale) I tend to give compliments when deserved and the person is self deprecating, depressed, or thinks *I* am doing so great.

HECK, I kind of slipped in that I thought 5 females were pretty. They picked up on it QUICK, and thanked me! Still, most weren't ones I would have been interested in sexually, as they were out of my age range.

I DID think about one that was close enough to my age range, but it turned out she was really flirtatious. Ironic too, since she had such a low opinion of herself. She ended up leaving 2 guys practically abandoned at the altar in ONE YEAR!

BTW I am not getting any younger. 8-( I was SHOCKED to find that 100% of all people polled think I am at least about a DECADE younger than I am! WOW!

Hi guys,

I do agree that no one should be made to act like a salesperson when it comes to getting along with NTs in any way, shape or form.

But on the other hand, I don't think it works to try to yank their chains when trying to get attention, either. Maybe if an NT joined us on this board, it could provide some useful information.

I will admit there have been times when in trying to get the attention of NTs, I have deliberately acted because I knew exactly how they would react (which would not be in a favorable manner to either they or I).

Here's an example. I remember one time when I am not sure of the exact cirumstances. It was in my boyhood, when an NT was trying to give me trouble, that I said, "Why are you such a jerk? Is your dad an alcoholic or something?"

Needless to say, he became quite angry and the situation escalated. That is all I remember.

From
thecartoonist

Hi again guys,

My mistake. When I said "if an NT joined us on this board, it could provide some useful information", the "it" I was referring to was the situation, not an NT person themselves.

Hopefully, I caught this situation before it snowballed.

From
thecartoonist

I caught that distinction, but quickly figured that might be the intent!

BTW The people I complimented WEREN'T looking for attention. I STILL don't know about that woman I spoke of. In one year she planned to marry like 3 people. The last one was quiet and unassuming, like I am. I don't think he really had any future. STILL, I found out like 2 years later that they were STILL married! I was SHOCKED!

Hi 2ukenkerl,

Wow! You've rendered me speechless with that one! That is one for the books, my friend.

From
thecartoonist

I am a bit conffussed by what you mean.
oh well#x

Hi angelgirl,

Perhaps I can clarify the things I have written for you. What exactly have I written that confuses you?

I need you to be more specific.

From
thecartoonist

Hi,
well i didnt get what you meant by saying what if a 'nt' was born as and vice versa.
it just dosnt make much sense!! !

Also i have Never taken revenge out on anybody.
revenge just makes you just as bad as the person you are taking revenge out on, in my opion.
xx