autism speaks can go F*CK themselves.

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should autism speaks be eliminated?
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14 Mar 2014, 8:01 am

if you agree,tell me why.



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14 Mar 2014, 8:09 am

Shouldn't it be, if you don't agree, tell me why, because if we agree with you, surely it's safe to assume the reasons are pretty much the same, or almost the same as yours?

They don't actually help people with Autism from what I hear. I'm new to learning about Autism and don't know much about these guys, but everything I've heard here about them is negative.



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14 Mar 2014, 8:59 am

Yes, they can go f**k themselves for all of the ills they've done to our community including all of the hysteria, moral panic and stigma they spread in their "campaigns." I have a vehement dislike of them for that reason alone. While I won't say that they're entirely bad, they're just mostly bad and a lot of their conduct neglects the interests of autistic people. I don't think they're entirely beyond redemption. They don't necessarily need to disband in order to be saved, but there needs to be a serious change in perception and attitudes before anything is accomplished.

I'd suggest that they hire more autistic people and give them the opportunity to change the direction and ethics of the charity. The National Autistic Society here in the UK was radically changed and made more sympathetic to autistic people thanks to autistic intervention. But after John Elder Robison left because they refused to listen to him, I'm unsure how long it will take before they start listening to what we say, actually allowing us to speak and giving us roles in their organizations which aren't merely token positions. If that can't be accomplished then I hope that Autism Speaks disbands.

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Shouldn't it be, if you don't agree, tell me why, because if we agree with you, surely it's safe to assume the reasons are pretty much the same, or almost the same as yours?

Not true. People can have very different reasons for coming to same conclusion. Though I do agree that people that are supportive of Autism Speaks should be encouraged to express their own perspective, as limiting it to people purely against Autism Speaks appears biased and single-minded.



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14 Mar 2014, 9:23 am

Their end goal is to eliminate us through genetic testing. That's what their "research" is leading to. They are the new Nazis. If those parents don't want their children, why don't they give them up for adoption? I'd love to adopt one of those kids.


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14 Mar 2014, 10:23 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Their end goal is to eliminate us through genetic testing. That's what their "research" is leading to. They are the new Nazis. If those parents don't want their children, why don't they give them up for adoption? I'd love to adopt one of those kids.

is it a joke? Or an exaggeration?
or is it true??? Is their goal to eliminate autism through genetic testing??



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14 Mar 2014, 10:39 am

Yes. Their goal is to develop prenatal testing for autism so parents can choose to abort autistic children. Which is why my mother supports them. She wishes she had been given the option of knowing I would be "like that" instead of the kid she wanted.



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14 Mar 2014, 10:56 am

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Yes. Their goal is to develop prenatal testing for autism so parents can choose to abort autistic children. Which is why my mother supports them. She wishes she had been given the option of knowing I would be "like that" instead of the kid she wanted.


While I think it's messed up that your mother would say that to you, I can't blame someone for not wanting a child with full-blown autism if they're not able to handle it. I'm also not bothered by wanting to basically get rid of autism completely. From how my doctor describes it, my brain never fully developed. I have an incomplete brain. I believe I would function better if I were NT, but that's based on perspective.

I know my opinions are going to be unpopular, but I just wouldn't want anyone to go through the stuff I've gone through. It's also important to note that this is the first I've heard of this, so I'm completely uninformed and this is a base reaction.

On the flip side, I do believe they should try to help people who already have autism instead of treating them like burdens.


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14 Mar 2014, 11:25 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Their end goal is to eliminate us through genetic testing. That's what their "research" is leading to. They are the new Nazis. If those parents don't want their children, why don't they give them up for adoption? I'd love to adopt one of those kids.


Nothing wrong with genetic testing, A couple should not be forced to keep a child who's quality of life will be compromised because of a genetic problem.


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14 Mar 2014, 11:31 am

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autism speaks can go F*CK themselves.
I would highly recommend this course of action to Autism Speaks; if they did, they would do a lot more good than they're doing now, and maybe they would lose the sticks up their bums that make them act like a bunch of self-righteous knights-in-shining-armor who kidnap the fair maidens while pretending to rescue them. F*cking themselves would be a good deal better than what they've been doing to us.

...yeah, I know, it's serious business. Sometimes you just have to rant, though. Consider this my contribution to the rant...


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14 Mar 2014, 12:05 pm

Callista wrote:
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autism speaks can go F*CK themselves.
I would highly recommend this course of action to Autism Speaks; if they did, they would do a lot more good than they're doing now, and maybe they would lose the sticks up their bums that make them act like a bunch of self-righteous knights-in-shining-armor who kidnap the fair maidens while pretending to rescue them. F*cking themselves would be a good deal better than what they've been doing to us.

...yeah, I know, it's serious business. Sometimes you just have to rant, though. Consider this my contribution to the rant...


I like this. :D



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14 Mar 2014, 12:06 pm

Dreycrux wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Their end goal is to eliminate us through genetic testing. That's what their "research" is leading to. They are the new Nazis. If those parents don't want their children, why don't they give them up for adoption? I'd love to adopt one of those kids.


Nothing wrong with genetic testing, A couple should not be forced to keep a child who's quality of life will be compromised because of a genetic problem.


That's just your opinion.


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14 Mar 2014, 12:08 pm

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autism speaks can go F*CK themselves.
I would highly recommend this course of action to Autism Speaks; if they did, they would do a lot more good than they're doing now, and maybe they would lose the sticks up their bums that make them act like a bunch of self-righteous knights-in-shining-armor who kidnap the fair maidens while pretending to rescue them. F*cking themselves would be a good deal better than what they've been doing to us.

...yeah, I know, it's serious business. Sometimes you just have to rant, though. Consider this my contribution to the rant...


I'd also highly recommend it. That would give them something better to do with their time.


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14 Mar 2014, 12:09 pm

Perhaps, I can send them a Swastika to hang on their flagship building for Christmas.


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14 Mar 2014, 12:30 pm

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Nothing wrong with genetic testing, A couple should not be forced to keep a child who's quality of life will be compromised because of a genetic problem.

This is realy polemic, those bioethic discussions. Well, I understand that it might be very hard for parentes that are not prepared. But at the same time I am totally not comfortable with the position of aborting because of disabilities. If it is something that will kill the child inevitably in a couple of years then okay.. hmm it reminds me this thing of parentes aborting down babies. For me this is really sad. I am not religious so for me people only get one life and one chance, so we can't prevent them for living because.. then it's over for them. We could think of the other side of this sentence, A couple should not be forced to keep a child who's quality of life will be compromised because of a genetic problem, which could be a baby should not be forced to die because of parentes that don't want them.
Also it seems like they see disabled people as burden, how awful is it for a disabled child? "if I knew you would have been born with genetic problems then I would have aborted you"



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14 Mar 2014, 12:33 pm

linatet wrote:
Dreycrux wrote:
Nothing wrong with genetic testing, A couple should not be forced to keep a child who's quality of life will be compromised because of a genetic problem.

This is realy polemic, those bioethic discussions. Well, I understand that it might be very hard for parentes that are not prepared. But at the same time I am totally not comfortable with the position of aborting because of disabilities. If it is something that will kill the child inevitably in a couple of years then okay.. hmm it reminds me this thing of parentes aborting down babies. For me this is really sad. I am not religious so for me people only get one life and one chance, so we can't prevent them for living because.. then it's over for them. We could think of the other side of this sentence, A couple should not be forced to keep a child who's quality of life will be compromised because of a genetic problem, which could be a baby should not be forced to die because of parentes that don't want them.
Also it seems like they see disabled people as burden, how awful is it for a disabled child? "if I knew you would have been born with genetic problems then I would have aborted you"


I feel the same way as you, linatet.


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14 Mar 2014, 12:33 pm

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Which is why my mother supports them. She wishes she had been given the option of knowing I would be "like that" instead of the kid she wanted

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While I think it's messed up that your mother would say that to you, I can't blame someone for not wanting a child with full-blown autism if they're not able to handle it. I'm also not bothered by wanting to basically get rid of autism completely. From how my doctor describes it, my brain never fully developed. I have an incomplete brain. I believe I would function better if I were NT, but that's based on perspective.

I know my opinions are going to be unpopular, but I just wouldn't want anyone to go through the stuff I've gone through.

I don't even know how to answer... :(



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