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09 Feb 2008, 12:59 pm

First of all, a quick definition, so that everybody is on the same page. The Murphy's Law is basically a statement: "when something can go wrong, it will". (It goes by different names in different languages.) For instance, if you're headed toward the intersection, and the light is green, it will change to red right before you're able to make it through; as a result, you're stuck waiting.

Are aspies more affected by the Murphy's Law than NTs or the whole population in general. It seems that more bad things happen to aspies than NTs. Sure, some of it may be due to impaired social skills, but I'm talking about things outside of human control, such as my red light example. Do more thing really go wrong for aspies, or does it only seem that way?



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09 Feb 2008, 2:19 pm

lmaorolf!

of course.....


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09 Feb 2008, 2:21 pm

I think it's more on the lines of the "Secret"----------what you think is what you get.


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09 Feb 2008, 3:03 pm

okay maybe I am also an aspie along with my son. My son says that EVERY time something happens he knows it is going to be bad luck. And whenever I am driving anywhere in town, the light DOES turn red and I get stuck there.....or I do not get an arrow.



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09 Feb 2008, 3:04 pm

Well, whenever I get one red light, I get them all, but so does everybody driving at the same speed as me. :wink:


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09 Feb 2008, 5:04 pm

I tend to think that Murphy's law is more a matter of perception than reality.


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09 Feb 2008, 5:14 pm

Its not that you always have bad luck, its just you remember when something unlucky happens and dont care to remember when something (good?) lucky happens, because it isnt an inconvenience.



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09 Feb 2008, 5:29 pm

I interpret Murphy's Law as (for example): if I bring an umbrella it won't rain & I'll be stuck lugging around this useless thing all day, but if I don't bring an umbrella it will rain & I'll get soaked. So, no matter what choice I make (based on a guessed prediction of future happenings), it seems likely to be unavoidably wrong.


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09 Feb 2008, 5:34 pm

Someone else mentioned the "Secret". I agree. Law of attraction.

I have this fear that whenever I leave something that's going to affect me, in someone else's hands, they will always screw it up. And they always do. 9/10 times that I ask someone to pick up some food for me, send my fiance on a grocery run, something is always missing or screwed up. If I give someone in my house a chore to do, it's wrong. They forgot to put out a few bags of garbage, the "clean" dishes are crusty. If I ask someone to stop at the store for me on their way home and say "you're going to forget, aren't you" and they're always like "nooo of course not" they still do.

It makes me think no one ever thinks of me or cares. But rationally thinking I know that it's probably just because I assume it will happen that it does.

Speaking of which, I just downloaded that "Secret" movie off LimeWire. Going to watch it now...


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09 Feb 2008, 5:59 pm

Belfast wrote:
I interpret Murphy's Law as (for example): if I bring an umbrella it won't rain & I'll be stuck lugging around this useless thing all day, but if I don't bring an umbrella it will rain & I'll get soaked. So, no matter what choice I make (based on a guessed prediction of future happenings), it seems likely to be unavoidably wrong.

http://www.weather.com/ :wink:


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09 Feb 2008, 6:45 pm

MrMark wrote:
Belfast wrote:
I interpret Murphy's Law as (for example): if I bring an umbrella it won't rain & I'll be stuck lugging around this useless thing all day, but if I don't bring an umbrella it will rain & I'll get soaked. So, no matter what choice I make (based on a guessed prediction of future happenings), it seems likely to be unavoidably wrong.

http://www.weather.com/ :wink:

Only upon quoting this in order to reply do I see icon translates as "wink" (am not fluent in emoticon language), so I guess you are kidding. Good. My point is NOT the weather per se, it was a "for instance".
Along the lines of: "If I do this, circumstances will be such that this will not be the proper action-but if I do that, then that will turn out not to be the right idea either". If someone says they might come visit, I feel like if I prepare for them visiting, they won't come-but if I assume they won't visit (and occupy myself otherwise), then they will show up. Feeling like whatever I do is wrong, will be the less optimal choice (based on what has yet to happen, which I cannot know until it's too late), so I can't "win".


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09 Feb 2008, 6:57 pm

I think that predicting that we can't win is a way of hedging our bet... at least we'll be right about one thing.


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10 Feb 2008, 12:11 am

It only happens in nightmares and with coworkers that bully you.



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10 Feb 2008, 1:00 am

The point of Murphy's law is it effect (or affects?) everyone... I have a big poster on my wall called Murphy's law wich has quotes like:

"Any tool dropped while repairing a car will roll underneath to the exact center"
"When a brocken appliance is dempnstrated for the repairman it will work perfectly"
"A $300.00 picture tube will protect a 10 cent fuse by blowing first"
"Anything good in life is either illegal, immoral, or fattening"
"You will remember you forgot to take out the trash when when the garbage truck is two doors away"
"Beauty is only skin deep, ugly goes to the bone"
"The Other Line Always Moves Faster"

That's just a few of the good one, but you get the picture. It's possible that aspies just notice these things more than other people... but motly I think it's just life.


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10 Feb 2008, 6:42 am

Here's a webpage on the history of Murphy's Law:
http://www.murphys-laws.com/murphy/murphy-true.html



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10 Feb 2008, 1:05 pm

It's a frequent complaint of aspies who don't know about AS that they have bad luck. I myself went to therapy to complain about bad luck back in my 20s when AS was unheard of (yes, I'm that old). Back then I seemed to constantly find myself in difficult situations that didn't seem to happen to others. Now, 20 years later, after having observed and analyzed myself and others for decades, I know that it indeed looks like bad luck, when in fact it's the lack of the social cushion that is in belonging to a social group that take care of each other, aka pack. Also the lack of knowledge of how to """"use"""" society/people for self-protection.

Eg: I was extremely poor and jobless at one point in uni, and with my last few phone tokens I called an employer about a student job opening that would be a lifesaver. The call got cut by chance, so I never got the job. If I'd had better relationships and a better understanding of social interaction, I can assure you I would've never found myself with a few last tokens, or making an important call from an old and rusty dorms public phone, or without someone to turn to for help, etc. etc.

We aspies are, therefore, waaaay more exposed to all the instances of Murphy's Law than NTs.


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