NT's make me so mad! Has this ever happened to you?

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26 Mar 2008, 11:13 am

I'm not bashing. I do not intend to bash. I just want to rant.

Have you ever looked at other people socializing? Just looking at them hang out together, eating lunch together, do all that stuff. And you see yourself completely isolated at a table. Doesn't that make you mad?


If I were to measure how close I am to a meltdown on the 1-10 scale, I would start off with a 5 :( I'm a bit frustrated right now.

2.) When people are discussing some really nice suff that you know about, like the best music and movies.Or to discuss politics, you want to join in. You try and join into the conversation and it's like you're talkin to a wall! :evil: No one is listening to you. This makes me even closer to having a meltdown. My score now increases to a 7 :( It may increase.

3.) Has anyone have a hard time expressing their feelings verbally. and when you suddenly stop and forgot what you wated to say. everyone stares at you. :oops: It makes me feel ret*d. It's really difficult for me not to mention extremely frustrating.

Meltdown score: 9 :!: :!:

4.) Has anyone in cass asked a basic question like: What does this word mean? I say the answer right away. This person responds with "I didn't ask you" "Or I was talking t th teacher" Well, yeah! I want to help someone. I was trying to help and everytime you call out the answers, you always get a "Nobody asked you, just shut your mouth." response.

5.) Someone asks for help wth their homework. You offer assistance. And this peson says, "Okay, can anyone besides ^&$^$@$ help me with this assignment. I'm really mad now, also very hurt. I offer to help. I always feel the need to help someone, but it's not fair that someone can turn me down without at least letting me help.

Meltdown level: 10!! !! ! I want to throw a desk across the room. I had fantasies of doing that, but I couldn't bring myself to do it. I want to kill someone. When I'm really mad, I always yell at someone, if they frustrate me. If they ask a stupid question, I go out of my way to tease them, like they do to me. I call them unintelligent monkeys. Uneducated losers, I don't need to waste my time on you.

Okay, my meltdown is increasing now. When I'm typing this up, I look and find missing letters. It's annoying that I have to go back and check this post for grammar! I'm going to explode.

My life is now miserable because of Asperger's. I can't empathize wih people, read social cues. Does it appear to you that everyone around you has a blank expression even though inside they are really angry? What's wrong with me. I'm starting to hate being an Aspie. My life is ruined! The only friends I have are internet friends, which is bad. Everytime you look at an Article about Asperger's, the symptoms and all that. It makes you even more frustrated. It reminds you why you are tis way. What do NT's have that I don't? What makes them so great? What do I have that they don't?

Asperger's, why of all disorders is it Asperger's. Why not Alzheimer's, or Munchausen syndrome. Why does it have to be socially impared?

I'm so mad!



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26 Mar 2008, 11:15 am

its not completly your fault.

Your class sounds like a bunch of idiots and jerks. :x


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26 Mar 2008, 11:17 am

No, It's definitely me. :cry:



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26 Mar 2008, 11:29 am

I'm just trying to figure out what I did wrong?



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26 Mar 2008, 11:36 am

Poor chimchar *pats you*



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26 Mar 2008, 11:52 am

Chimchar wrote:
Have you ever looked at other people socializing? Just looking at them hang out together, eating lunch together, do all that stuff. And you see yourself completely isolated at a table. Doesn't that make you mad?


Never did anger me. I wandered why the heck they did it though, and how they did it. heheh.

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2.) When people are discussing some really nice suff that you know about... You try and join into the conversation and it's like you're talkin to a wall! :evil: No one is listening to you.


I hate it when people do that! :x By the way, I heard that that was actauly a "rid the dork from our presence" tactic. Bullies sometimes do that to make the victim feel isolated. It works for them, because the person they hate leaves the scene. Other groups sometimes use that on a person they simply don't want involved.

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3.) Has anyone have a hard time expressing their feelings verbally. and when you suddenly stop and forgot what you wated to say. everyone stares at you. :oops: It makes me feel stupid (edit of word). It's really difficult for me not to mention extremely frustrating.


Been there it sucks! :x Not their fault though, just a difference of communication.

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4.) Has anyone in cass asked a basic question like: What does this word mean? I say the answer right away. This person responds with "I didn't ask you" "Or I was talking t th teacher" Well, yeah! I want to help someone. I was trying to help and everytime you call out the answers, you always get a "Nobody asked you, just shut your mouth." response.


IMO. That's really an imature attitude on their part!

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5.) Someone asks for help wth their homework. You offer assistance. And this peson says, "Okay, can anyone besides ^&$^$@$ help me with this assignment. I'm really mad now, also very hurt. I offer to help. I always feel the need to help someone, but it's not fair that someone can turn me down without at least letting me help.


Yeah it's not nice. Who diserves getting turned down that way? If the buggers want someone else they need to ASK someone else rather than act so dumb

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Meltdown level 10: If they ask a stupid question, I go out of my way to tease them, like they do to me. I call them unintelligent monkeys. Uneducated losers, I don't need to waste my time on you.


You did that after their mind games right? 8O

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What's wrong with me. What do NT's have that I don't? What makes them so great? What do I have that they don't?


Wrong with you? I don't think NT sterio typed people are 'great'. I think they are just other people. The 'great' human being doesn't egsist from my perspective. of course you're ticked off. I would be!



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26 Mar 2008, 12:01 pm

Chimchar wrote:
No, It's definitely me. :cry:


No it's not 'definatly' you. I don't see what you did wrong. Seriously. Well, besides the teasing, anyway. For some reason, some people can't stand "miss or mr. smartie pants" in their class, and yes offices to. Maybe it makes them feel stupid, I don't know. After all, the "smart' person is always pointing out something they got wrong. It's like telling an old person that they are old, as if they didn't know. In that sence, I doubt AS has much to do with what they are doing. Some of it is their fault to, so try to stop blameing yourself.



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26 Mar 2008, 12:03 pm

Next time he wants help, ask if there's anyone else besides him that you could help...

Don't bother helping those people, they made it quite clear they don't want help, so why bother?



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26 Mar 2008, 12:15 pm

Happens 2 me all da time but i just get on wid it as im not in da same boat as most NTs n im happy 2 b who i am. 8)



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26 Mar 2008, 12:17 pm

Yes I have had all those things happen but I did not know I was an aspie(I'm 43,they hadn't "invented" us yet :roll: )and it does suck but you are not using your logic.

They are reacting the way they are because they are insane, jealous of your intelligence and feel so bad about themselves that they can only feel better by trying to find someone to look down on to feel better about their own inadequacies.In other words...they can't help it any more then you can help being intelligent, helpful, or more sensitive. There is some hope. Some of them will eventually learn some empathy for people who are not like them. Some of them will gain some sense of self worth without needing to bring another person down. Some of them will eventually out grow their need for peer exceptance enough to think for themselves and speak up against the bullies of the world.

Unfortunately...many of them will never progress past their insanity,immaturity,illogical emotional responses. I see this as an unfortuately reality...some are just "developmentally delayed" but others are permenantly damaged(poor dears).Be careful about reading about "aspergers" traits...they are all listed from a very NT perspective and that bias is influenced by their lack of theory of mind of aspies(another flaw that they are blind to in themselves).



Please dont buy into their delussions about you. We are not broken NT's. We are different and some of those differences are "better" and some of them are only "worse" because we are forced to live in an invironment designed for the convenience of NT's neurological design. (Dont you think the world would be designed quit differently if it was created for the convenience of blind,deaf or physically handicap people?) We are in the minority,right now...that is reality.


Many of the things you mentioned will get better,not because all the NT's change,(only a few ever grow up)but because you will eventually grow a thicker skin. When you truely except that they are wired the way they are and not able to rewire themselves it will help your perspective and that is what is causing the most grief. Truly, most of them can not help their condition and we can only do the best we can to let it not harm us until we can create a more sane environment.

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26 Mar 2008, 12:20 pm

I'm sorry that you're having such a rough time. God, I hated high school, and this thread reminds me of why.

Number 5, and 6 doesn't happen to me very often(because I'm so very introverted that I rarely speak out like that) , but when it does here's a comeback that I've used before, and it gets them every time; "So, tell me. How does it feel to be such a mean, hateful person who belittles others to feed their own ego? I'm just curious" If you say that in a calm, but loud enough voice that others can hear it will embarrass the hell out of whoever you said it to.



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26 Mar 2008, 12:28 pm

What grade are these people in, Kindergarten? :roll:

Their behavior has nothing to do with you. Those people in your class are exposing the ugliness that was within them in the first place. People tend to put on a nice civilized front when they're around people they think are the "right" kind of people. But when someone who's different comes along, the mask comes off.

Be glad they're exposed for who they are.....so you don't have to spend any more of your precious time with these creeps.


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26 Mar 2008, 12:49 pm

My advice if they are people you know JOIN IN WITH THEM I have had to learn that lesson infact there is a place I sometimes go for lunch my friends hang out there and usually I start a table on my own the next minute I'm having to put extra seats down so many people start sitting on my table and I usually socialise quite well.



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26 Mar 2008, 1:21 pm

All of what you just described, Chimchar, is nothing new in my little world. Even as an adult, I come into situations like yours. I still end up angry and frustrated in situations, but then I realize, it's their loss, not mine. :)

It's nothing anything you're doing wrong. The people you're coming into contact with need a reality check on tolerance.



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26 Mar 2008, 5:46 pm

What if it's EVERYBODY you talk to? Not just people in class It really makes me mad to discover that no one is listening to me.



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26 Mar 2008, 7:45 pm

Chimchar wrote:
Have you ever looked at other people socializing? Just looking at them hang out together, eating lunch together, do all that stuff. And you see yourself completely isolated at a table. Doesn't that make you mad?


It does not make me mad, I like me the way I am, I just find it a bit weird for people to "just hang around" it just seems too vain and empty for me, you have to learn to enjoy being with yourself.

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2.) When people are discussing some really nice suff that you know about, like the best music and movies.Or to discuss politics, you want to join in. You try and join into the conversation and it's like you're talkin to a wall! :evil: No one is listening to you. This makes me even closer to having a meltdown. My score now increases to a 7 :( It may increase.


I can't lie this does make me mad, I hate chitchat but I like intelligent disscusions, when I go up to them and they ignore me, its usually a "we know you know" attitude XD And those are unintelligent people, so how can you have an intelligent talk with unintelligent people?

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3.) Has anyone have a hard time expressing their feelings verbally. and when you suddenly stop and forgot what you wated to say. everyone stares at you. :oops: It makes me feel ret*d. It's really difficult for me not to mention extremely frustrating.


Yeah, this is frustrating, I'm 18 and I have never been on a date, but I have learned to deal with it, it will happen when it is the right time for it.

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4.) Has anyone in class asked a basic question like: What does this word mean? I say the answer right away. This person responds with "I didn't ask you" "Or I was talking t th teacher" Well, yeah! I want to help someone. I was trying to help and everytime you call out the answers, you always get a "Nobody asked you, just shut your mouth." response.


Hehehe, happens to me everyday, my classmates are tired of me knowing everything they don't, in fact the school's principal talked to me and told me to hold back, when I know an answer, hilarious if you ask me, I try to hold back but sometimes I just can't help answering.

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5.) Someone asks for help wth their homework. You offer assistance. And this peson says, "Okay, can anyone besides ^&$^$@$ help me with this assignment. I'm really mad now, also very hurt. I offer to help. I always feel the need to help someone, but it's not fair that someone can turn me down without at least letting me help.


Well, I never had this situation, but I had the exact opposite, "Hey Alex, wanna help us in our project?" I end up doing the whole thing by myself, because I know they are too dumb or too lazy to do it, they know I will assume this attitude thats why they as me to help, but its also something I would have done anyway, so its ok.

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Asperger's, why of all disorders is it Asperger's. Why not Alzheimer's, or Munchausen syndrome. Why does it have to be socially impared?


Please never say this again! I'm sure you have a beautiful mind and you are a wonderfull person, they are missing out! I love being an Aspie, I prefer it a million times over a lame "Oh look at me I'm sick" disease.
And if you think Alzheimer's is not socially impaired, try being a part of society when you don't remember who you are and who your family is, without even remembering how to talk or walk or even go to the bathroom.

So please girl embrace yourself not only as an Aspie, but also as a beautiful person, capable of lots of things, and hey! You have all of us in here to help you, listen to you anv even be your friends, never forget that.

Also, Chimchar is really cool pokemon XD
(Sorry if I have bad spelling or grammar, clumsy fingers + not being a native speaker= bad spelling XD)


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