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20 Mar 2008, 5:26 am

Problems at bedtime/sleeptime, yet you are unable to verbalise what is bothering you?



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20 Mar 2008, 5:31 am

yes.



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20 Mar 2008, 5:35 am

I have absurdly bad insomnia. I can't describe it better than "not being able to go to sleep", so I guess I do have problems verbalizing it :)



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20 Mar 2008, 5:51 am

Any ideas on how to fix it? And I don't mean medication of any sort. 5 years old is FAR too young for that.



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20 Mar 2008, 6:57 am

I had problems sleeping at bedtime when I was a child. I think that it was because i wanted to read my books and for some reason night seemed to be the best time for it. Nothing was bothering me.

Im still a bit like this. I go to bed at 11 but my brain takes about an hour to calm down from its thinking in order to go to sleep.

There could be another thing.. is he having problems with the texture of the sheets, or pillow?

Perhaps you could ask him to draw a picture of why he doesnt like to go to sleep.


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20 Mar 2008, 7:05 am

zen_mistress wrote:
I had problems sleeping at bedtime when I was a child. I think that it was because i wanted to read my books and for some reason night seemed to be the best time for it. Nothing was bothering me.

Im still a bit like this. I go to bed at 11 but my brain takes about an hour to calm down from its thinking in order to go to sleep.

There could be another thing.. is he having problems with the texture of the sheets, or pillow?

Perhaps you could ask him to draw a picture of why he doesnt like to go to sleep.


Well he does love his books in bed and really doesn't like them being taken away. Will ask about the sheets and pillows. He can't draw, fine motor problems.



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20 Mar 2008, 9:21 am

Yes.

Son will talk about being afraid, but unable to talk about what scares him. Unwilling to talk to me about it? We now sit and talk for up to half an hour about anything else...black holes, plans for the next day, animals.

I made a sleep pillow with rice, lavender, and hops. We warm it up for about 35 seconds in the microwave. It goes on the bed near my son's pillow. Seems to help.

Back rubs. Foot massage. Deep muscle relaxation cd from psychologist.

All seem to help in varying degrees at times.

I am going to be posting a thread today about weighted blankets and aromatherapy. Want to know if they help anyone.



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20 Mar 2008, 10:03 am

i know when i have trouble sleeping its usually because i have too many thoughts racing around in my head.

sometimes i have to take a moment to write them down, and that seems to help. i know light touch massage seems to calm me down as well.

Some aspie kids are just sleep fighters. THey dont want to miss anything that is going on and it takes a while to slow them down. I am 31 and it still happens to me. Slow everything down starting around six pm, that means no stimulants after that time.... especially sugar and chocolate. It sounds like those other techniques mentioned earlier will work well with this too. If he is sensitive to textures, find something in a texture that soothes him. A fuzzy blanket or pillow works for me. Igotta try the scented pillow thing.



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20 Mar 2008, 11:02 am

I can't go to sleep unless I'm pretty tired. If i try to sleep when I'm not close to exhausted then i just end up completely awake and restless. Only way i can sleep is in annoying cycles where i will go to sleep at something along the lines of 12 one night then 1 then 4 then 6 then 12 and so on or just make sure i am exhausted by the time i want to get to sleep.

Have you noticed any connection between how active he was that day and how much trouble he has getting to sleep? I'm sure you have to some degree or another but some insomnia is independent of how tired people are, just wondering.



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20 Mar 2008, 11:04 am

I am on the wrong planet. My world has a 27 hour day instead of the 24 hours I am stuck with here. It messes with my sleep. :alien:


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20 Mar 2008, 12:08 pm

I do struggle with getting to sleep, but usually once asleep I hate waking up, and sleep does not really refresh me. I get distracted easily, and so end up thinking or contemplating.


Mum2ASDboy wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
I had problems sleeping at bedtime when I was a child. I think that it was because i wanted to read my books and for some reason night seemed to be the best time for it. Nothing was bothering me.

Im still a bit like this. I go to bed at 11 but my brain takes about an hour to calm down from its thinking in order to go to sleep.

There could be another thing.. is he having problems with the texture of the sheets, or pillow?

Perhaps you could ask him to draw a picture of why he doesnt like to go to sleep.


Well he does love his books in bed and really doesn't like them being taken away. Will ask about the sheets and pillows. He can't draw, fine motor problems.


Could there be a confusion going on, and he associates bed with books, rather than sleeping? Maybe that would explain why he doesn't like them being taken away to some extent.



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20 Mar 2008, 12:13 pm

It is worse for me. Every night I have to drown out my thoughts. If i don't, random memories of bad things in my past send me into a guilt trip for the rest of the night. The only way to keep that from happening is to write stories in my head or to whisper negative things out loud to banish them