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18 Mar 2008, 8:50 am

I always had a strong need to control events happening around me and physical functions of my organism. I hate the thought someone could know my weakness - once during our P.E. lesson in primary school I was hit by a ball and even though I was almost sure then that my finger was broken I was too proud to breathe a word about it to the teacher. I couldn't stand the thought that other kids could know I was hurt. When I feel an illness is developing in me I try to hide it at home as long as it's only possible. I hate admitting there can be a thing I can't cope with and I belong to those people who are told they wouldn't be seen dead asking for help in something. I like dealing with everything on my own. Are you very proud as well?



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18 Mar 2008, 9:28 am

I know this isn't Politics, Philosophy, & Religion. But what you describe is not "Pride." At least, not in the sense of a virtue describing one's pursuit of moral perfection and achieving the values of character one needs to properly hold one's self as the highest value.

To answer your other question, on proper premises...
No, I have never felt the need to hide injury. The only time I have felt the need was when I was being bullied and to show an injury would be to invite further torment. In the situation I do not owe my tormentors anything, and to show that hurt is to expose my person to more injury. In any other situation where my person is not at risk from such sources... I do not hide pain.



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18 Mar 2008, 9:34 am

Proud in a bad sense? Hauteur? Yes, I am. When I was little, I was always in for a risk or something downright stupid thing, but afterwards I'd cry about the discomfort or hurt. Later then things changed and I was punished and I learned not to alert anyone to anything that caused me discomfort or pain. I also experienced times in PE when I should have told but just didn't. I ran into a wall at top speed (the top speed of a 10-year-old that is) and over-expanded both my wrists in the attempt to stop myself from crashing into the wall face first. I didn't say a word and continued, although I was still talking at that time and could have told the teacher despite them hating me. I messed my right wrist up for the rest of my life, so this decision wasn't made in one of my brightest moments.

Nowadays, although I'm not afraid to complain - I complain a lot actually, my friends complain about me complaining - but I think I'm so cool, I can do everything. That is leading to some very nonsensical decisions on my part I admit. Because I can control even the pain I feel and shut it out, I do that of course; just because I can do it. I matured into a real show-off...
Last year, I wrote my biology exam with a concussion and although I passed with average grades, I felt so brilliant about being able to write a complicated exam in a horrible physical shape.
It is easy to tell myself I'm not going to push myself over limits when at the same time, I still love to jump into action, adventure and thrill and now can endure so much more and thus have the opportunity to try so much more and succeed in controlling and being cool.

Show-off I am.



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18 Mar 2008, 9:45 am

Sora wrote:
Proud in a bad sense? Hauteur?


Yes, asking about this I meant something like haughtiness, arrogance, being proud of something in a bad sense of this word.



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19 Mar 2008, 4:04 am

sometimes i am afraid to ask for help



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19 Mar 2008, 4:15 am

I don't feel pride.



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19 Mar 2008, 5:53 am

I definitely feel the need to hide vulnerability. I think this comes from years of being bullied but it might just be another AS trait; I'm not quite sure. Its hard because people then assume you're not fazed by anything and it can be a very hard, lonely road. I don't know if I'd describe this as pride though...



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19 Mar 2008, 7:46 am

Sometimes I can't stand criticism. Actually, I could never accept criticism because I knew most of it was assumptions about me. Now I know how to explain things better so it's okay. :)



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19 Mar 2008, 7:53 am

Of the 7 sins, pride is the one I am most prone to. I can't stand being sick, not because I feel bad, but because others want to take care of me. I don't want to be taken care of!


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19 Mar 2008, 9:40 am

*gurgle* i wish this were the politics/philosophy/religion forum. Because people's misuse of the word Pride REALLY needs addressing!! !



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19 Mar 2008, 10:00 am

Izaak wrote:
*gurgle* i wish this were the politics/philosophy/religion forum. Because people's misuse of the word Pride REALLY needs addressing!! !


Semantic subtleties are not the same for me what for a native speaker. I'm not quite sure about this subtle difference in English but in my language we normally say that one is proud of something positive about him and when we want to express that someone has way too high self esteem as well.



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19 Mar 2008, 10:47 am

yes... its only a philosophical distinction. It exists the dual use of the word in the English language also. In philosophy we call it "dropping context" or the "fallacy of the stolen concept."

Catholicism has perverted "pride" long before this thread, so don't take it personally. it's just a pet peave of mine, and I'll but out of the thread from now on. So don't fret Irulan.



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21 Mar 2008, 12:05 am

I have often felt that the character of Mr. Darcy in Pride and Prejudice was a maybe a misunderstood aspergers, rather than just proud... for instance his social intolerances or his disain of company or dancing etc... was judged as pride, but that was his way of coping