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02 Oct 2005, 11:51 pm

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03 Oct 2005, 1:09 am

Whats the AFF???


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03 Oct 2005, 7:37 am

Here is a statement made by Amy (one of the founders of AFF) as posted on AFF forums:


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The member called TheASman, after having to have numerous warnings from myself, Gareth, and a moderator, for misrepresenting himself in other places than this site with regards to being an admin of AFF, or some authority, and certain behaviour on wikipedia, and also in the chatrooms, finally broke the last straw yesterday, and got a suspension on his membership to give us time to discuss it with moderators, and admin of the chat network, which is not specifically part of AFF, but chatautism.com.

We have tried to be tolerant, but spending hours, sometimes hours in a day, trying to sort out these issues has become a huge drain on us.

TheASman has chosen to claim he was totally banned, which isn't true, and not to be honest about the reasons, but thats ok, we have finally had some hours of peace on the network, on the site, and on msn, and its been quite a relief for us.



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03 Oct 2005, 1:12 pm

I heard the Ass man was an idiot anyway.



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03 Oct 2005, 2:13 pm

I just wanted to let you know...

My son and I have met TheASman in person. We met up and had brunch together and had a wonderful time. He has many good ideas on autistic advocacy and on other things as well.

TheASman is definately NOT an idiot. I just wanted to let you know hale_bopp, that you have heard wrong. It saddens me to hear of his being banned but I understand that many issues have to be cleared up between the owners of AFF and TheASman. I have no idea what those issues are so I will not comment on them.


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03 Oct 2005, 2:33 pm

Hale_bopp seems to have a tendency to spew out venom instead of showing consideration of others on this message board. Pay no heed.



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03 Oct 2005, 3:43 pm

thepeaguy wrote:
Hale_bopp seems to have a tendency to spew out venom instead of showing consideration of others on this message board. Pay no heed.

I think she tends to spew honest statements, not venom.



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03 Oct 2005, 3:57 pm

some posts are getting a bit personal, i fear - hint, hint.



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03 Oct 2005, 3:59 pm

ghotistix wrote:
thepeaguy wrote:
Hale_bopp seems to have a tendency to spew out venom instead of showing consideration of others on this message board. Pay no heed.

I think she tends to spew honest statements, not venom.


I'll admit that; I find blunt honesty from anyone a breath of fresh air since I make honest statements myself. However, she also creates fallacious statements because of her attitude, no matter how prominent of a member she may be to some of you.

I've said my piece.



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03 Oct 2005, 6:17 pm

Why did he get banned from here, just out of interest?

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I just wanted to let you know...

My son and I have met TheASman in person. We met up and had brunch together and had a wonderful time. He has many good ideas on autistic advocacy and on other things as well.

TheASman is definately NOT an idiot. I just wanted to let you know hale_bopp, that you have heard wrong. It saddens me to hear of his being banned but I understand that many issues have to be cleared up between the owners of AFF and TheASman. I have no idea what those issues are so I will not comment on them.


I'm sure there are plenty of people that are really cool but act like pains online, and the online side is the only side most of us see of them, so it's fair enough that some people might think he's an idiot. (I don't know him, just what I heard)



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03 Oct 2005, 6:24 pm

Will have to look and find out


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03 Oct 2005, 8:28 pm

I think if you read the quote I put above from one of the owners from AFF Hale_Bopp, he wasn't banned he was temporarily suspended pending further discussion among the moderators on how to handle his harrassment by PM over IRC of one of the owners. While he can be a very nice man, he has a tendancy especially on IRC and all to demand attention and get a little bit high strung when it comes to not getting that attention right away especially when it comes to wanting to tell Amy something. He also said some very unnice things about one of the moderators on AFF too that didn't really make the admins happy.

He has a tendancy to sometimes overreact in situations and instead of calming down and approaching things. I've watched him do it on AFF and IRC. He got upset saying I was a fake a year ago and all and threatened to leave after saying some rather malicious things about me to Amy and Gareth if they didn't have me banned from AFF. Later on that matter was resolved between him and I but it's just part of who he is and how he can sometimes react. Amy explained to him over MSN as she told told me earlier today as I wanted to get both sides of the story and he was told that it was a temporary suspension and he got upset and escalated the situation to get attention likely. It's all in his reactions as Monastic said, he is a nice man but he has his issues just like everyone else and really needs to learn to control his reactions better.



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04 Oct 2005, 2:41 pm

ljbouchard wrote:
Will have to look and find out


He was banned from here after posting threads slandering WP staff members, attacking other users and attempting to cause trouble on the forums. He rejoined the site using a false name after he was banned for his conduct.


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04 Oct 2005, 3:25 pm

You have my unswavering loyalty in pursuit of banz0ring this bastard.



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04 Oct 2005, 5:01 pm

A few things:

1) I researched ASMan on WP and have found out that the ban was and still is in place and is appropriate for the time being. If he wishes to remove the ban, that is up to Alex, not us Mods or Admins.

2) Although ASMan has used other names in the past, there is currently not enough evidence to prove that DragonGirl is ASMan. If some users can present more evidence (such as IP address from posts in other forums), that would help. Otherwise, I cannot ban DragonGirl based on what I have right now.

I hope this helps.


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