Mmr and autism/ aspergers

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I read an article about Mmr possibly causing autism today. I know the goverment keeps saying it doesn't but i was just wondering if it did. I had the Mmr vacination and i have As. I asked my mum about it and she said she did look into it when i was about 4 but she doesn't know. My sister also had the mmr vacination but she doenst have autism or As. I became very curious about it. i guess its one for my science teachers really.
So what does everyone else think really?

There is no research study that says MMR causes AS. Any rumors to that effect are spread by freaky conspiracy theorists who think the government is out to control all our minds.

thx for the reply!

Okay, there isn't any research study but i was wondering because in the article it had a couple of mothers who said there kids were 'normal' before they got vacinatinated. which seemed a bit shocking.

I guess the thing about Mmr causing it or not causing it has been around for a while..

xx

Generally parents don't tend to notice their kids autistic behaviors until after a year old. Coincidentally, MMR is given at 1 year old. If MMR was given at age 4 instead of age 1, parents wouldn't jump to this conclusion. However that would also put them at risk of contracting diseases for those 3 extra years.

am have classic autism,and they didnt do the mmr when am was a baby,they only did it in seperate shots,so what about all the auties and aspies who were babies before the eighties/start of MMR?
am have a lot of autie and aspie relatives in dads side of the family and both dad and sister are on the spectrum themselves [though dont want a diagnosis],mum thinks its come from her family, so for am it's got to be a family thing.

am would not say yes or no whether think mmr could cause it as find the details it goes into are confusing,am think it could be....am think they are going to find more than one cause-more than one way into Autism.

Actually, mage, there is one study that claims that MMR vaccination causes autism- the one published in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield, for which he was paid £440,000 by an attorney who was attempting at the time to sue the vaccine manufacturer.

In answer to your question, angelgirl, no, the MMR vaccine has no link to autism or Asperger's Syndrome whatsoever. The scientific community has long disregarded such claims as the nonsense they are, but the media loves to keep the sensationalism going, so they will pretend there is still a debate over the safety of vaccines.

hi there i had my jab around 1965-6 ish
my mother says i was a perfectly normal baby before i had the jab after the jab
i had dificultys breathing and needed a vapour thingy at night to help me breath

was the mmr available outside UK before the eighties/early nineties?

It is possible that you had some physiological allergic reaction to the vaccine; such things are exceedingly rare but they have been documented. However, something like that would be an exceptional case and should not dissuade parents from vaccinating their children.

You have all made some very good points indeed.

[/quote] i agree but it would be nice to be 100 percent sure, after reading about autism and what signs to look for in your child. my parents allso say that i seemed to show more signs after the jab, but personaly i can see signs of autism in both parents they wont admit it though but the benafits out weigh the cons i suppose

We are almost 100% sure that there is no link between MMR and autism (real scientists can never say 100% sure about anything). We are also confident that in some rare cases, vaccines can produce negative reactions. But they do not cause autism.

Of course your parents saw more signs after you were vaccinated, you were vaccinated very young and autism doesn't typically manifest until the child is over a year old, or sometimes isn't very noticeable until even later. Temporal proximity of two events does not establish etiology.

OK my theory on this is that MMR does NOT cause autism or asperger's!! ! It is mainly genetic.
My son showed warning signs BEFORE he had the MMR vaccine. I'd rather have an autistic child than no child because they died from a complication of measles!
But hey if people want the believe the MMR vaccines causes ASD's then fine, I'll just believe that chocolate can cure everything

good point.

of coursae youd rather an autistic child than no child at all. it does sound a bit weird than the vacination causes it coz i thought you were suppose to have it your whole life or whatever. i was jus curious

xx

Not really a theory, just an empirically supported observation. The burden of proof lies on the MMR conspiracy theorists in any case. Even your comment about preferring an autistic child to a dead one (which I whole-heartedly agree with, BTW) implicitly concedes the point that vaccines cause autism. So, even if we accept the vaccine nuts' false premises, their conclusion (we should stop vaccinating and allow untold numbers of preventable deaths) still does not follow.

well thats what i meant to say, i agree and dont know much about vacines, but personaly i think its a shame there has to be so many at once and contians mercury the odds are it cant be good for every one.

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