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03 May 2008, 8:30 am

Is there a way to make an Aspie feel more comfortable when being around another person? One of my favorite people has Aspergers and when we go out (as friends) he is extremely uncomfortable. At the first he is fine, but as the time spent together gets longer he becomes more uncomfortable. Especially when we go out to eat and he sits opposite me. His stims get more noticeable and I feel bad for him. I love spending time with this person and want to continue going places with them. Do you have any suggestions?


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03 May 2008, 8:40 am

hmmm..

sometimes theres just nothing that anyone can do to make things 'more comfortable'

hey, it sounds like you guys get along pretty good though, you are probably already doing a lot to make things pretty good for him..

im pretty much doubting that it's the you part of spending time with you that gets him less comfortable..

so maybe something like being able to go somewhere that's quiet could help

sometimes, compromise is needed, maybe you would like to be able to spend a certain amount of time in certain places with him...

i'll compare this to a simple example with my gf, sometimes she wants to stand within a certain proximity to me and speak at a certain volume and i end up having to tell her that i need her to either quiet down some or back up a bit because at that time she's just loud to me to the point that i don't want to be hearing her at all, but it's not her that i don't want to be hearing, it's just the loudness.


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03 May 2008, 8:46 am

ya quiet place is great :D



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03 May 2008, 9:01 am

alcohol



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03 May 2008, 9:21 am

or then it just makes him rock more:/....its really depending person oh and most aspies like pressure..there was a thread about it somewhere...



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03 May 2008, 9:46 am

My wife prefers to go to quiet out of the way restaurants as opposed to trendy crowded loud restaurants if we go out to eat, or we tend to order in



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03 May 2008, 10:28 am

Simple. Get him talking about a subject he's interested in. You might want to bring a book to read while he's talking to you. He probably won't notice.


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03 May 2008, 10:54 am

One other thing. You've probably noticed that a lot of people don't like your aspie friend. He's noticed this too. It isn't something that happens just once in a while. Most people ain't got as much humanity as you.

You might want to try going somewhere where there aren't other people in close proximity. A picnic might be better than a restaurant. Or maybe someplace where it's assumed he won't be expected to have any interaction with the other people there, like the zoo on a slow day, or a park, or a museum.

Ever seen the movie Mozart and the Whale? There's a scene where the female aspie character is talking to the aspie male on Halloween. "Let's go to the mall," she says, "Everybody there will be in costume, so nobody will notice us. That's what I love about Halloween."


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03 May 2008, 10:57 am

sands wrote:
Especially when we go out to eat and he sits opposite me. His stims get more noticeable and I feel bad for him.


Personally I don't like sitting opposite people when eating, because for some weird reason I don't like being watched when I eat. Nor do I like being in a position where I could POTENTIALLY be watched or seen or ogled or(insert your own synonyms). I'd probably feel more comfortable sitting side by side or something. I like sitting in corners too, much better than being in the middle of a room. In a corner, you only have 90 degrees to defend, rather than a whole 360 and when you're in a public place, being in a position of strategic superiority is paramount! To arms! Ready the artillery! Etcetera... Just give him a musket or a short sword and I'm sure he'll feel better.



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03 May 2008, 11:07 am

u been in army..im sure u would do it fine :D



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03 May 2008, 11:35 am

sands wrote:
Is there a way to make an Aspie feel more comfortable when being around another person? One of my favorite people has Aspergers and when we go out (as friends) he is extremely uncomfortable. At the first he is fine, but as the time spent together gets longer he becomes more uncomfortable. Especially when we go out to eat and he sits opposite me. His stims get more noticeable and I feel bad for him. I love spending time with this person and want to continue going places with them. Do you have any suggestions?


If he's willing to go places with you in the first place, then his discomfort is not with you, but more likely the surroundings. As you see here, consensus is that quieter, less crowded places are always best. (Personally I have a short list of about a half-dozen restaurants I'm okay with, can't recall the last time I tried a new one and don't have any desire to).

Also keep in mind that Aspies are exerting a tremendous amount of psychological energy anytime they're involved in a social interaction - it literally makes us tired, trying to fit in. So when the stims become more obvious, it's probably just time for him to go home and decompress. Meaning: give him time alone in his own space and I'm sure he'll be happy to see you later. If you crowd him too much, you'll wear him down mentally and he won't be able to stand the sight of you, may even eventually have a meltdown on you and actually hurt your feelings.



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03 May 2008, 12:31 pm

I should have told more in the post. I do like this person (very much so), but at this time he is not ready to be in any sort of relationship. And I know he likes me as a person. I'm trying to strengthen our friendship at the moment. That evening it was my idea to take him to a bookstore. (A love that we both have) and he likes Chinese so I took him to a little restaurant that is dark and private. I knew that all evening he was some what uncomfortable, but when he was put in front of me I watched the stims become more apparent. This was the first time we had been out any where together, but we have spent most of the last year talking on the internet and we do have other plans to go places this summer. I know that keeping the outings short is probably a good idea, but I would like to eventually get him desentisized to me. He admitts that besides family that he is uncomfortable being around anyone, so I know it's just not me. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him and think he is a very beautiful person. It's very important to me that he be as comfortable around me as he can be.

Any help would be appreciated,

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03 May 2008, 1:00 pm

It sounds like your friend has the same problem I do, which is that even when you are around someone you like, it is very tiring. Try setting a time limit on the excursion (one hour, two hours, etc.). That way your friend knows when it is time to go home, and he won't have to feel awkward suggesting that you two part when he gets overwhelmed. I find that I am much happier when there is a time limit on the amount of time I'm spending with someone, as "parting" is very stressful for me, and anticipating it is even more so. I just never know how to end a social occasion, so having a set time limit helps a lot.



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03 May 2008, 1:26 pm

CanyonWind wrote:
Simple. Get him talking about a subject he's interested in. You might want to bring a book to read while he's talking to you. He probably won't notice.


That made me laugh. Then I remembered that is what my wife used to do when we went to the pub. :cry: However, I started taking a science magazine with me and that got us both some funny looks from the other revellers. :lol: Everyone talking, laughing and joking over a pint of beer and us treating it like a library. However, not many libraries serve beer while you read.



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03 May 2008, 1:34 pm

sands wrote:
Is there a way to make an Aspie feel more comfortable when being around another person? One of my favorite people has Aspergers and when we go out (as friends) he is extremely uncomfortable. At the first he is fine, but as the time spent together gets longer he becomes more uncomfortable. Especially when we go out to eat and he sits opposite me. His stims get more noticeable and I feel bad for him. I love spending time with this person and want to continue going places with them. Do you have any suggestions?



It seems a corolation between the time he spends out and the amount of fatigue he is dealing with. Processing all the streaming information coming into his senses from being 'out' takes a lot of energy from him, he is replenishing some from eating, but the more exhausted he gets ( being 'out', talking to you, eating, having to deal with bodily functions (i.e. finding a restroom, going, coming back, etc.) just wears him out, and his stimming is to soothe his intense concentration to just maintain.

Somthing a little less exhausting, perhaps? Something less 'out?' Something with less visual and loud and less bustling with other people would not sap his energy so much. Somehwere he is more comfortable with just being?

hoping to help,
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03 May 2008, 1:44 pm

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I should have told more in the post. I do like this person (very much so), but at this time he is not ready to be in any sort of relationship. And I know he likes me as a person. I'm trying to strengthen our friendship at the moment. That evening it was my idea to take him to a bookstore. (A love that we both have) and he likes Chinese so I took him to a little restaurant that is dark and private. I knew that all evening he was some what uncomfortable, but when he was put in front of me I watched the stims become more apparent. This was the first time we had been out any where together, but we have spent most of the last year talking on the internet and we do have other plans to go places this summer. I know that keeping the outings short is probably a good idea, but I would like to eventually get him desentisized to me. He admitts that besides family that he is uncomfortable being around anyone, so I know it's just not me. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him and think he is a very beautiful person. It's very important to me that he be as comfortable around me as he can be.

Any help would be appreciated,

Sands


pressure. That sounds like a lot of pressure. Some wonderful Aspies are at war with their logical minds and what ever emotional or sexual stimulation they get can set up a vertible flurry of waves all coming from different aspects of the relationship. (whew, just thinking that gave me that mental hand and arm flapping feeling!)
I don't know. I know I calmed down once my first husband ( whom I loved dearly and trusted) laid a gentle lip lock on me and I surrendered to the feelings of sensual pleasure. (In appropriate surroundings, of course!)

Merle