Does anyone think your AS gives you "wrong opinions&quo

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When I was against abortion, my mother was really mad at me for being against it unconditionally, saying I lacked empathy and didn't understand the big picture.

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Sounds like your mother lacks empathy for the unborn babies.

When I corrected a mistake on my history teacher's test, I was told that I didn't understand generalizations.

Maybe you don't understand generalizations. It's certainly possible.

The question in controversy had a simple factual error. I do understand generalizations just fine, but that wasn't even the issue.

I know of one that happen just today!! !! My Nanny was talking about when in old age my parents or her can't take care of themselves and if I'd take care of them I said no I want to make something of myself. (I got yelled at I'm heartless selfish etc.) I DO NOT WANT MY KID TO TAKE CARE OF ME IN OLD AGE GO ON GO TO COLLEGE MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF DON'T TAKE CARE OF ME WHEN I'M OLD!! !! ! That's my opinion and I stick to it sadly my family hates it and my mom said I could of worded it differently (to put it better although I don't know the verbal words I'd buy you a personnal nurse in a nice house perhaps NOT THAT I WOULDN'T TAKE CARE OF YOU!)

I can't see how AS would have anything to do with your opinion on most issues of morality, philosophy or ethics. Not getting the big picture on an issue like that usually comes from lack of life experience. Which is to say, it's difficult to understand why others might have an opposing opinion or take a different stance on an issue, if you have not "walked in their shoes." Though perhaps that qualifies as naivete, or "lack of empathy", or "no theory of mind," so I may actually convincing myself that your mom is correct. Hmm.

I think that's the case with most evangelical Christians when it comes to abortion. You'll notice they're virtually all solidly middle-class economically, therefore they have never found themselves in a situation in which abortion seemed like the only rational solution.

They're also largely uneducated beyond the public school level and not imaginative enough to consider that any being capable of creating the entire universe and all it's life forms can surely find a home for any soul he/she/it intends to see born into this world, no matter whether any individual human decides to abort a fetus or not. So...if abortion can't thwart God's will, then...what's the argument about?

Oh, yes - it's about whether performing an act that your omnipotent creator designed you to commit (since he knows all past, present and future and knew all your future actions even before you were born) qualifies as a sin and therefore necessitates that said creator who loves you as his child and forgives all your (preprogrammed) shortcomings if only you believe in him (clap ever so hard and say I [i]DO believe in fairies![/i]), must toss you into a fiery abyss to be tormented for all eternity.

"But you created me to do it"

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I've been told I am taking something too literal, things don't need to be black and white, I don't have empathy I lack it.



I think people tell us these things because they aren't agreeing what we say so they use our AS or autism thinking it might get us to change our minds.

Nicely put Willard

I think the Christians are pissy because aborted foetuses get into heaven the easy way, what with being innocent, while they have to work at it.

Hmm. I also believe that abortion is wrong, but my reason for that belief has more to do with science than religion. It's science that tells us that a fetus is not just a blob of tissue, but a tiny human being, without a clear signal to tell us when life begins, short of conception.

I think that whatever your beliefs are, it's dangerous to get into the habit of ignoring human life you don't see or have trouble relating to, and that applies to unborn fetuses, and to underprivileged mothers who feel they have no other choice, and to aspies-- who have a lot of experience being overlooked and misunderstood! (So it's little wonder we have opinions on this.)

Just trying to point out that it's not as simple as religion or being an aspie; people form their opinions about these issues for a lot of reasons.


When I saw the title of the thread, I actually thought that I have probably had "wrong opinions" due to having AS, not about things like this, but about myself and others, and what others were thinking. I used to assume the worst about every situation-- thinking that people were "just being nice" when they said positive things about me and that they were really talking about me behind my back. It wasn't true; it was just a distorted view of the world because of the stress I was under.

Has anyone else had an experience like that?

It doesn't always have to be about religion, you know. Some people just view it simply as infanticide. Is it ok to kill a baby after it's born? It's not a fully developed human with life experiences yet, and it's not convenient for the parents to keep it. So why do we have laws to protect newborns from being thrown in the garbage? Is it because our society is unreasonable towards lower income parents? Why does one stage of development all of a sudden change a child's right to continue living? Can't you see how some people in certain cultures have used this ambiguous kind of reasoning to justify murdering children months old, abandoning beautiful little girls in death houses because they would have rather had a boy?

Who's right then? Which arbitrary age is it acceptable? Some abortionists claim a mother should be allowed to abort even after 9 months. My nephew was born a month early, and I never felt more protective in my life. How could anyone reason that it's just fine to kill one of these as long as they were'nt lucky enough to pop out a little earlier?

See it's so much easier to take cheap shots at a person's faith and make fun of them instead of addressing the real issue of attemting to define at what point a disposable object all of a sudden turns into a valued human baby.

for a minute I thought this was about trivial things...like movies, TV shows, and music.

Allow me to explain:

For instance, I'm a huge Rocky fan- HOWEVER, I was least impressed with the first one. For me, they go in this order: Rocky IV, Rocky Balboa, Rocky III, Rocky II, Rocky V, Rocky.

Everyone LOVES the first one, and always goes "HOW CAN YOU LIKE THE SEQUELS BETTER?! You must be crazy!"

And in most cases, I DO like sequels better than most "originals". Most people have told me "oh, the sequel is just there to make money". My thoughts are: 1. The FIRST one was their for the purpose of making money. 2. With the sequel( in MANY cases anyway), they take what was good from the first film, and make it even better. In fact, here are some cases where I think the sequels EASILY outranked the original:

Ghostbusters II
Gremlins II
Back to the Future II and III
Saw II
Shrek 2
Nightmare on Elm Street 3-7
Friday the 13th 3, 6, 9, 10
Puppet Master II

And the list goes on. Also, many times I happen to like TV shows that, while they have a fan following, many people think other shows are better, and to this day I have no idea how anyone could sit thru it( could just be my taste, or how an Aspie sifts thru things). For instance:

two of my favorite shows of all time are The Critic, and WKRP in Cincinnati

IMO, two of the worst shows ever made are Friends, and You Can't Do That On Television....ironically these two are considered to be absolute classics. Ironically, I watched Friends one night in the break lounge at work, and was thinking to myself "my god...the older I get, the more dated and idiotic this show gets!". As for YCDTOTV, I just NEVER saw its appeal, PERIOD.

Now, take a comedian everyone seems to love- one who I can't fathom the appeal of: Dave Chappelle. I don't understand what anyone sees in him- I think he's nothing more than a guy who hates white people, and manages to convince other white people he's doing it for humor, but everyone else seems to love him. I love Carlos Mencia, and everyone thinks I'm nuts for THAT.

That's a cheap shot. A disgusting thing for anyone to say. What gives you the right to say such things?

Go watch Beyond Treason, and then you'll see why I consider any religion that goes on about the rights of the unborn in their own country, while having no regard for the unborn in another country thoroughly hypocritical.

With the same group promoting abstinance as a form of contraception, campaigning for poorer education, healthcare and welfare, it's no wonder there are so many people for whom abortion is a way to keep lifew getting just a little bit harder.

If people want abortions to stop, they should try and make the world a place where anyone can feel happy bringing a child into, instead of just spreading their ideas of how everyone else should live.

It's still not about the generalizations of what people believe, and whether or not those beliefs are silly or hypocritical to anyone else. It's not about the multiple reasons a person would want an abortion, and whether or not those reasons are valid problems. It's about defining when it's acceptable to kill a human child. If an unborn child could be considered expendable, could we use the same reasoning to view an older infant as a burdan on their family and society, and their euthenasia an acceptable solution?

See it's easy to trivialise an issue like this by avoiding the real content of the issue. Generalize, pick apart and make fun of the other side all you want. It doesn't convince me of anything because you are not making any valid arguments here. Also, making life easier for everyone else should either be everyone's responsibility or no one's resposibility. I'm not convinced that if a person veiws it as wrong to kill a child, it's solely their responsibility to make that other person's life easier so they won't do it. We don't use that kind of reasoning when a person decides that killing an adult will help solve some of their troubles.

Pithlet, I've been waiting for someone to say what you just said. I am in complete agreeance.