A peculiar shared auditory "halucination" experien

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21 May 2008, 1:22 am

A topic in another post reminded me of an odd sensory experience I had many years ago, and I can't recall ever having anything like it since.

I play Scottish Highland Bagpipes, and along with another piper and his girlfriend, was at the Renaissance Faire in Southern California in 1972, on the site of the old Paramount movie ranch. I'd practiced for an hour or so up on a hillside overlooking the main ranch-road out to the highway. Later, I went out to dinner at a Denny's with my two friends, and as we passed the hill on the way out, I heard this strange brief sensation of pipe music coming from the hill, and was surprised that my friends heard it too, and one said, almost matter-of-factly, "you've put a tune into the hill".

Once we got into Denny's, and were seated at the table, it happened again, and my friends said "John, stop doing that!" and I was puzzled myself, as it was a sensory thing (definitely, there wasn't another piper playing at any of these times, I've been playing pipes since 1966 and take my word for it, I know it was "halucinatory") and I wondered if anyone else in the restaurant heard it, but apparently only us three, and I said "but I'm not doing it" (though it would seem that I was, as it seemed to start up in my mind before anyone else heard it, and went away went I stopped trying to review the tune in my head). Seems to have been some extra-sensory perception.

It only was a brief, momentary auditory sensation, like a halucination, but it was shared with some creative, bohemian California artistic and musical people. That shared experience was what really made it odd.

Anyone else have "shared auditory halucinations" (for want of a better phrase) experiences?


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21 May 2008, 3:32 am

oh lordy. the warpipes. we here all "hear" bagpipes on and off for hours after leaving a highland games. it's kind of like the ringing in your ears after having been to a really loud rock concert. something about the loudness and the particular pitch and quality of the sound, i think. sometimes even thinking about pipes, as i am now, i can hear them.

so yes, other people do it, too.



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21 May 2008, 10:05 am

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oh lordy. the warpipes. we here all "hear" bagpipes on and off for hours after leaving a highland games. it's kind of like the ringing in your ears after having been to a really loud rock concert. something about the loudness and the particular pitch and quality of the sound, i think.

so yes, other people do it, too.


That's certainly one kind of experience, but look what you said about the situation in which you experienced something "similar". A highland game or rock concert is a time-length of exposure and loudness; these conditions weren't present, so I'm not sure that it's the same thing.

The people who experienced this weren't near where I was playing, and I'd expect to have the experience repeatedly on the basis you mention (I don't recall ever having such an experience after long hours of attending highland games, either). You may be right, maybe it's just "ringing in the ears", but it doesn't feel quite that way.

Difficult for me to be really sure about this one, as it had a very peculiar feeling about it, and the fact that it was such an isolated incident.

Did you ever have another companion say something to you about hearing the sound when you were hearing it? My companions remark was very direct.

Thanks, Johnpipe


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21 May 2008, 1:57 pm

Freaky.

Only thing similar I've had was at a friend's house once, in the basement, a few of us all heard a mysterious, unintelligable whispering in our ears O_O

Needless to say, none of us went back down there alone.

Actually, I did have another thing kind of similar...it's happened maybe...two or three times...I'll be thinking something in my head, and someone else will hear it, as if I said it out loud. But my lips are still dried shut, how could I have?


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21 May 2008, 2:17 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
Freaky.

Actually, I did have another thing kind of similar...it's happened maybe...two or three times...I'll be thinking something in my head, and someone else will hear it, as if I said it out loud. But my lips are still dried shut, how could I have?


That's a good description of exactly how this felt! I was thinking of the music, and "heard" it and so did they.


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21 May 2008, 4:25 pm

Have had many experiences similar to that. Once somebody asked if I believed telepathy were possible, so I said let's try it, and proceeded to pick the most unusual visual image I could think of to send, something so odd, so bizarre it couldn't possibly come up by accident. Several months previous, an ex had come out of the shower while I was on the phone and done a half somersault on the bed, till she was upside down. Naked. I think it was the tampon string that made it so surreal. When I began sending this image, the other person not only described the girl's physical position, but her hair color, complexion and the color of the comforter on the bed. We had only known each other about three hours at that time and I'd never mentioned this ex at all. The self-declared experts and debunkers can say what they will, I was present and participating when this happened and it seems to me that I'd have to be far more gullible to think it was some astronomically unlikely accident, than to accept it for what it was- clear evidence of telepathic transmission.


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21 May 2008, 5:52 pm

These were not exactly hallucinations (the sound was there), but shared misinterpretations: when hiking in a certain canyon a friend and I kept hearing the groaning of mountain bike brakes. We'd move to the side of the trail and wait, but no biker ever appeared. We were convinced that was what the sound was. Many months later I realized it was the wind causing the tree branches to rub together.

Same canyon, summer, late afternoon, same companion. She kept hearing children laughing. Finally, I thought I heard it too. She decided that place was haunted and refused to come back. I went alone (still do) and kept hearing the laughter when I knew the canyon was deserted. I slowly determined that the sound was the combination of wind, insects, and the gurgling of the stream and these exact conditions occurred only on summer afternoons. But once we had convinced each other that we heard "brakes" or "children", it was hard to interpret it any other way.


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21 May 2008, 8:46 pm

Yes , and the term would be projecting your thoughts toward others . (Just in case you wanted to know)I have done this on many occasions . I have done this so often that my friends act as if its normal, if you can call that normal? :?

In fact me and my boyfriend can practically talk without words, we just kinda know what the other person is thinking. If I am upset he will (just know) and he will call me , and vice versa . I believe everyone can do it if they take the time to open up.

I have some good theories as to why people have these ability's Ill have to write a post on it someday.



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22 May 2008, 2:41 am

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Yes , and the term would be projecting your thoughts toward others . (Just in case you wanted to know)I have done this on many occasions . I have done this so often that my friends act as if its normal, if you can call that normal? :?

In fact me and my boyfriend can practically talk without words, we just kinda know what the other person is thinking. If I am upset he will (just know) and he will call me , and vice versa . I believe everyone can do it if they take the time to open up.

I have some good theories as to why people have these ability's Ill have to write a post on it someday.


You just rang a bell for me with that. Last fall, upon returing from my first trip to Europe and England, I had read a biography of a yogi, and he gave some examples of such communication, and referred to the "Supermind"; I hadn't thought about that until your response, and just refered to it:

The yogi had entered the office of the director of a pharmaceutical company whom he knew from his previous stint as a business man, when he had supplied a substitute for an unavailable medicine needed to fulfil a state contract and save the company from a crisis. After picking up his payments regularly, he disappeared, until one day he showed up, no longer in an English suit and red silk tie, but barefoot wearing a lungi, having read Aurobindo's "The Life Divine" and adopting the life of madhukari, having to beg for food.

He said to the manager, Saktindranarayan Deb, "Why were you thinking so much about me? Correctly put, why were you calling out to me so much?"

"Deb was dumstruck. How did this person know that Deb was avidly trying to get in touch with him?"

On another occasion Deb asked "how do you understand when someone is calling you or thinking about you?"

The yogi replied "This is very simple. There is only one Me. Why don't you understand that? It is I who speak, and I who listen. Forms, yours and Chiranjeev's forms, are there to enjoy the divine dialogue. If you have control over that 'Me' then even you can do it. You have thought about me and I have answered. This is called 'Cosmic Telecommunication."

Curiouser and curiouser!


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22 May 2008, 3:13 pm

Oh yes, lots of cases of that stuff, too.

I just had it the other day with my cat ;D I suddenly found myself thinking about him out of nowhere, and I thought "You know, I haven't seen him inside in a while, I wonder if he's outside. I bet he wants in." So I leave my bedroom and check the side door. No kitty. I'm about to go back into my room, and I hear him bonk against the doggy door at the front door, and I let him in.

I hadn't turned on any lights or anything like that, so he wouldn't have known I was there.

He's generally a very smart cat. He used to climb up and down ladders...he knows how to open my door, but he doesn't have the opposable thumbs to do so...he'll come up to my open window in the Summer and meow for me to let him in.


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22 May 2008, 3:36 pm

You know how people can be convinced that they're hearing or seeing something, under hypnosis, and they really truly hear it? I bet that was something like that; your friends picked up on your suggestion and heard bagpipes... after all, sound is truly generated in the brain; all your ear picks up is vibrations in the air.


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22 May 2008, 9:06 pm

Callista wrote:
You know how people can be convinced that they're hearing or seeing something, under hypnosis, and they really truly hear it? I bet that was something like that; your friends picked up on your suggestion and heard bagpipes... after all, sound is truly generated in the brain; all your ear picks up is vibrations in
the air.


Only I hadn't made any suggestion, nor spoken a word; they "heard" the sound and spoke first. There had been no words between us when we three first heard the sound, in the restaurant, and I know it began and ended in my thought.

It was a wierd experience at the time, and we did not discuss it at all (aside from placing my order with the waitress, I had hardly spoken at all while with my companions that day, other that to respond in the affirmative on such questions as "would you like to go out to dinner?").


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